Zen 3 announcement discussion

[mahyar]

btw not anything about ryzen 3 or new apus

[nick name]

[SupaKomputa]

Awwwh no non X?

[Tan3l6]

But the Zen 3 availability is from what date?

[nick name]

Was it just me or was that Borderlands 3 footage choppy?

[nick name]

Just now, Tan3l6 said:

But the Zen 3 availability is from what date?

November 5 global availability.

[Tan3l6]

Just now, nick name said:

November 5 global availability.

OK, thanks! I thought it was the Big Navi release date.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

 

New pricing... they are getting confident.

$550 for a 12 core versus $300 for a 6 core, the math isnt adding up

[SupaKomputa]

I think they gonna continue to sell 3000 series for the same money.

Same strategy as selling X470 / B450 with a lower price tier.

[nick name]

[nick name]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

$550 for a 12 core versus $300 for a 6 core, the math isnt adding up

It's like Costco.  You buy more and save!

[panzersharkcat]

I'm going to wait to see if there's going to be a 5700X.

[SupaKomputa]

No mention on chipset compatibility.

Really short presentation.

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

$550 for a 12 core versus $300 for a 6 core, the math isnt adding up

i get the feeling price increase on the 6 core is because of the unified die vs previous multiple ccxs

[nick name]

1 minute ago, panzersharkcat said:

I'm going to wait to see if there's going to be a 5700X.

If the yields are all good and or all the same then there probably won't be.  

[nick name]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

i get the feeling price increase is because of the unified die vs previous multiple ccxs

I'd guess that too.  Chiplets allowed for more wiggle room with bad silicon.  

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

i get the feeling price increase is because of the unified die vs previous multiple ccxs

As far as production's concerned they are just soldering an extra die to the CPU package

 

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

It's like Costco.  You buy more and save!

Then the 5800X will be the ripoff of the month, after we exclude Intel

[Good Chinese]

rip for intel

 

[mahyar]

does any one know when lower end stuff will drop?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

I'd guess that too.  Chiplets allowed for more wiggle room with bad silicon.  

the 8 core maybe, but the 6 core and 12 core models both allow somewhat defective die (only 6 core per CCX needed)

[mahyar]

Just now, Good Chinese said:

rip for intel

 

until alder lake (maybe)

[germgoatz]

i know a lot of people choose intel because of higher gaming performace and dont take pricing into consideration at all, so after this, intel is probably freaking out

[nick name]

5 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

No mention on chipset compatibility.

Really short presentation.

From AMD on Reddit:

 

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We’re excited to announce the AMD Ryzen 5000 Series desktop processors with the groundbreaking “Zen 3” architecture today. Based on the new levels of gaming performance the 5000 Series enables, we’re certain many of you are already excited to upgrade and making plans to do so. In an effort to keep you informed as promised on May 19, we’re sharing more on the status of BIOS updates for motherboards with AMD 400 Series chipsets.

The process is underway, and we have already begun providing our motherboard partners with the software code to add Ryzen 5000 Series support for 400 Series motherboard BIOSes.

You can expect the first beta releases of these BIOSes to be available for download starting in January 2021. The BIOSes will be made available directly from your preferred motherboard vendor when they are ready – exact timing and availability will depend on the development, implementation, and test schedule for your specific motherboard vendor and model.

One change from our May 19 update on this topic: Users will not have to verify processor ownership with AMD – we have streamlined the process.

As always, users should verify the processors supported by a BIOS update before flashing, as support for legacy CPUs may be removed to make way for the Ryzen 5000 Series. This may make the update a “one-way” process for some motherboards.

Please confirm you have a processor supported by the new BIOS before flashing to ensure you can boot your PC after the update.

As a reminder, this is the final upgrade path AMD can enable for 400 Series motherboards. Ryzen CPU releases beyond the “Zen 3” architecture will require a new motherboard. We continue to recommend that new AMD customers purchase an AMD B550 or X570 motherboard for the best/easiest user experience.

 

 

[hollyh88]

2 minutes ago, mahyar said:

until alder lake (maybe)

nah the prices are too high for a rip intel.

[SupaKomputa]

Just now, germgoatz said:

i know a lot of people choose intel because of higher gaming performace and dont take pricing into consideration at all, so after this, intel is probably freaking out

Sadly they don't touch the 5ghz barrier, for a non techie Intel still has an edge.

I'm sure it can overclock pass 5ghz tho.