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Possible 3080 card question

I've seen various reports that there are 20gb RTX 3080s possible coming out (or into the hands of scalpers with bots more realistically) and my question is this.  If the 3090 is already 1499 and has 24gb of RAM it would make sense that a 20gb 3080 would be close in price. So.... would there be any fear of jumping on a 3090 now like I almost have with getting a 3080.  Performance-wise I would think the 3090 would still outperform a 20gb 3080.. am I thinking right ?

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There is a gigantic price gap Nvidia can fit the 3080 20GB card in. Say if it's $900 -1000. Will you pick the $1500 3090 or a $900 3080 20GB?

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20 minutes ago, Deli said:

There is a gigantic price gap Nvidia can fit the 3080 20GB card in. Say if it's $900 -1000. Will you pick the $1500 3090 or a $900 3080 20GB?

My thinking going into it was this. That's considering FE prices. As of right now the Asus ROG Strix has a retail price of $849 so I was thinking we would be talking $1050-1100 narrowing the gap even more. I guess more what I was worried about is, there's hopefully no way that a 20gb 3080 could outperform a 3090 

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36 minutes ago, MedicGarou said:

My thinking going into it was this. That's considering FE prices. As of right now the Asus ROG Strix has a retail price of $849 so I was thinking we would be talking $1050-1100 narrowing the gap even more. I guess more what I was worried about is, there's hopefully no way that a 20gb 3080 could outperform a 3090 

No one ever  imagine a 3080 will out-perform 3090. You say Asus ROG Strix 3080 is $849. Do you know the retail price of the Strix 3090 isn't $1500? But like $1700.

 

It's like you worry about the 3070 will out-perform 3080 for whatever reasons!!!!

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1 hour ago, Deli said:

There is a gigantic price gap Nvidia can fit the 3080 20GB card in. Say if it's $900 -1000. Will you pick the $1500 3090 or a $900 3080 20GB?

lol im actually afraid of seeing its price since the 3080 is 1200 bucks where i live for the cheapest version which is the eagle oc, the most expensive here is the aorus xtreme which costs 1420 bucks..........

the 3090 on the other hand, is 2400 in its cheapest version and a top of version (like the aorus xtreme or the rog strix) will probably cost around 2900 bucks here....

so a 3080 20GB will probably be 1600 bucks at its cheapest....

so im not looking forward to seeing the 3080 20GB price

 

"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." - Bruce Lee

 

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6 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

lol im actually afraid of seeing its price since the 3080 is 1200 bucks where i live for the cheapest version which is the eagle oc, the most expensive here is the aorus xtreme which costs 1420 bucks..........

the 3090 on the other hand, is 2400 in its cheapest version and a top of version (like the aorus xtreme or the rog strix) will probably cost around 2900 bucks here....

so a 3080 20GB will probably be 1600 bucks at its cheapest....

so im not looking forward to seeing the 3080 20GB price

 

I hope AMD will have something reasonable. So when Nvidia releases the 20GB 3080, we'll see a price drop of the 10GB 3080. I know i"m day dreaming.

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2 minutes ago, Deli said:

I hope AMD will have something reasonable. So when Nvidia releases the 20GB 3080, we'll see a price drop of the 10GB 3080. I know i"m day dreaming.

It's going to be very interesting on the 28th when the press conference is held.  I'm picturing all kinds of 3080 and 3090 stock magically appearing. 

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1 hour ago, MedicGarou said:

I've seen various reports that there are 20gb RTX 3080s possible coming out (or into the hands of scalpers with bots more realistically) and my question is this.  If the 3090 is already 1499 and has 24gb of RAM it would make sense that a 20gb 3080 would be close in price. So.... would there be any fear of jumping on a 3090 now like I almost have with getting a 3080.  Performance-wise I would think the 3090 would still outperform a 20gb 3080.. am I thinking right ?

i want an extra 3-5% performance on the 3080 20g for under 1k, if not, 3090 it is, just waiting on more reviews, better bins, stock, before i decide on a model, the 3080 10G is a great deal though for 699.

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38 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i want an extra 3-5% performance on the 3080 20g for under 1k, if not, 3090 it is, just waiting on more reviews, better bins, stock, before i decide on a model, the 3080 10G is a great deal though for 699.

Pretty much what I'm thinking. Yes, I'll pay $1800 but its $1800 on a card I won't have to replace for 2 years (If I want to stay at the forefront of tech) up to potentially 4 years or more. 

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2 hours ago, MedicGarou said:

I've seen various reports that there are 20gb RTX 3080s possible coming out (or into the hands of scalpers with bots more realistically) and my question is this.  If the 3090 is already 1499 and has 24gb of RAM it would make sense that a 20gb 3080 would be close in price. So.... would there be any fear of jumping on a 3090 now like I almost have with getting a 3080.  Performance-wise I would think the 3090 would still outperform a 20gb 3080.. am I thinking right ?

I suspect the newer 3080s will bridge the price gap between the current 3080 and 3090. 1000-1200

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6 minutes ago, MedicGarou said:

Pretty much what I'm thinking. Yes, I'll pay $1800 but its $1800 on a card I won't have to replace for 2 years (If I want to stay at the forefront of tech) up to potentially 4 years or more. 

Those who bought 2080 ti said the same thing. "I pay $1200 for a top end card. So I'll be fine for 4 years."

 

Only after two years, a $500 new card will perform similar to the last year top dog. Thinking investing the bleeding edge will guard you from being outdated, is super naive.

 

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2 minutes ago, Deli said:

Those who bought 2080 ti said the same thing. "I pay $1200 for a top end card. So I'll be fine for 4 years."

 

Only after two years, a $500 new card will perform similar to the last year top dog. Thinking investing the bleeding edge will guard you from being outdated, is super naive.

 

Actually it's not, people who bought the 2080 TI 2 years ago didn't suddenly lose performance.

We all knew the 2000 series was overpriced, however it is quite safe to say that the 2080 TI will last at least 2 years, considering the 3070 should match it's performance it's safe to say that card will last 4

 

So buying the 2080 TI 2 years ago, you would have been "safe" for 4 years I'd hardly call it outdated.

No matter what you buy you should get better value later on, although that wasn't the case when we went from the 1000 series to the 2000 series

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3 minutes ago, Exeon said:

Actually it's not, people who bought the 2080 TI 2 years ago didn't suddenly lose performance.

We all knew the 2000 series was overpriced, however it is quite safe to say that the 2080 TI will last at least 2 years, considering the 3070 should match it's performance it's safe to say that card will last 4

 

So buying the 2080 TI 2 years ago, you would have been "safe" for 4 years I'd hardly call it outdated.

No matter what you buy you should get better value later on, although that wasn't the case when we went from the 1000 series to the 2000 series

My GTX1070 doesn't lose performance either. It was launched to target 1440p gaming back. Now people are aiming 3080 for 1440p.

 

A better strategy would be upgrade every two years. Sell the old card to help fund the new one. The old card doesn't lose as much value after two years compares to four years. You have the latest tech, while spending less long term.

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7 hours ago, Deli said:

My GTX1070 doesn't lose performance either. It was launched to target 1440p gaming back. Now people are aiming 3080 for 1440p.

 

A better strategy would be upgrade every two years. Sell the old card to help fund the new one. The old card doesn't lose as much value after two years compares to four years. You have the latest tech, while spending less long term.

That's what I used to do

I went with cards like the GTS 260, 560, 760 however all my games were at medium settings to try and get to 60FPS

I bought the 980TI and I've been maxing most games up till now, there are a couple of titles I can't max anymore due to VRAM.

 

So 5 years of maxing games instead of replacing a card every 2 years was well worth it to me, I'm planning to do the same to the 3080

 

Another strategy is flipping a card before launch, however if people did that on the 1000 series they would have been burned

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17 hours ago, Deli said:

My GTX1070 doesn't lose performance either. It was launched to target 1440p gaming back. Now people are aiming 3080 for 1440p.

 

A better strategy would be upgrade every two years. Sell the old card to help fund the new one. The old card doesn't lose as much value after two years compares to four years. You have the latest tech, while spending less long term.

That's pretty much what I was eluding to. The RTX 2070 Super I have now has a home waiting for it when I purchase a 30?0 that will take a $400 bite out of whichever card I choose so I don't see the possibility of having the top of the line card every couple of years "naïve" 

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