AMD Ryzen 5000-series “Vermeer Zen 3" CPU Benchmarks Leaked (Update 2)

[BiG StroOnZ]

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AMD's next-gen 'Vermeer' desktop CPU flagship: Zen 3-based Ryzen 9 5900X packs 12 cores, 24 threads at up to 5GHz with 150W TDP. AMD's new purported Ryzen 9 5900X will be the new flagship 'Vermeer' desktop CPU in the new Zen 3-based Ryzen 5000 range of CPUs. The new Ryzen 9 5900X will reportedly pack 12 cores and 24 threads at up to 5GHz with an IPC improvement of up to 20%. We should see boost clocks reaching 5GHz from AMD this time around, where we saw them get close with 4.7GHz on the Ryzen 9 3900XT and 4.6GHz on the Ryzen 9 3900X. We are being told to expect a higher TDP, with up to 150W on the Ryzen 9 5900X -- up from the 105W on the Ryzen 9 3900X.

 

Today, we have received the first benchmark of AMD's upcoming Ryzen 7 5800X CPU. Thanks to the popular hardware leaker, TUP APISAK, we have the first benchmark of the new Vermeer processor, compared to Intel's latest and greatest - Core i9-10900K. The AMD processor is an eight-core, sixteen threaded model compared to the 10C/20T Intel processor. While we do not know the final clocks of the AMD CPU, we could assume that the engineering sample was used and we could see an even higher performance delta. Above, you can see the performance of the CPU and how it compares to Intel. By the numbers shown, we can expect AMD to possibly be a new gaming king, as the numbers are very close to Intel. The average batch result for the Ryzen 7 5800X was 59.3 FPS and when it comes to CPU frames it managed to score 133.6 FPS. Intel's best managed to average 60.3 FPS and 114.8 FPS from the CPU framerates. Both systems were tested with NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 2080 GPUs. 

 

The leak would seemingly confirm that AMD Is indeed skipping the Ryzen 4000 series naming for its desktop parts. The 5000 series naming would align with the upcoming Cezanne (Zen3) and Lucienne (Zen2 – Renoir Refresh) mobile parts. The lineup should now be less confusing for consumers.

 

 

 

Source 1: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75377/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-12c-24t-cpu-on-zen-3-at-up-to-5ghz-with-150w-tdp/index.html

Source 2: https://www.techpowerup.com/272715/first-signs-of-amd-zen-3-vermeer-cpus-surface-ryzen-7-5800x-tested

Source 3: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-8-core-zen3-cpu-spotted-on-aots-benchmark-site

 

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There recently was a video released where Lisa Su, CEO of the AMD promised record performance in the next series, where she said: "For the sake of customers and fans, Ryzen is always on the path to promoting our computing and bringing it to higher standards, and with Zen 3 this will be possible. Zen 3 architecture will make it possible to reach new heights in performance." Rick Bergman, AMD's Executive VP of Computing & Graphics also said: "So, what’s next for AMD in the PC space? Well, I cannot share too much, but I can say our high-performance journey continues with our first 'Zen 3' Client processor on-track to launch later this year. I will wrap up by saying, you haven’t seen the best of us yet!" 

 

AMD's Zen 3 CPUs are to hopefully feature around a 17% IPC improvement. Zen 3 will be based on TSMC's 7nm process, therefore at minimum, a 15% improved IPC is expected (if not higher, hopefully). Zen 3 launch is expected on October 8th. Additionally, a new 10c20t offering/SKU is going to be made available (I'm sure Intel is thrilled about this, lol). Lastly, keep in mind that engineering samples have been floating around @ 4.9GHz boost clocks, thus, 5.0GHz shouldn't technically be that hard to achieve (since TDP limits will be increased/lifted). In any case, the unveiling is coming next week, therefore we'll be getting much more accurate information sooner, rather than later.

 

 

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Here's a family photo of the Zen 3-powered AMD Ryzen 5000 series CPUs

 

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Source 4: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/75765/heres-family-photo-of-the-zen-3-powered-amd-ryzen-5000-series-cpus/index.html

 

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X And 5900X Zen 3 CPUs Show Performance Dominance In Early Benchmark Leak. AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 5950X Also Benchmarked in Geekbench 5. Ryzen 5 5600X benchmarks appear, cruise past Intel's Core i5-10600K:

 

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Leaker extraordinaire TUM_APISAK has leaked some benchmarks on AMD's upcoming Ryzen 9 5900X and 5950X CPUs - namely, in Geekbench 5. In this round of leaks - which are, admittedly, originating from two different systems), the 12-core, 24-thread AMD Ryzen 9 5900X scores 1605 points in single-core and 12869 in the Multi-core benchmarks. The 16-core, 32-thread Ryzen 9 5950X, on the other hand, scores 1575 points in single and 13605 points in Multi-core workloads. The Ryzen 9 5900X's higher base clocks may be responsible for the higher single-core score; however, the Ryzen 9 5959X pulls ahead - expectedly - in the Multi-core portion of the benchmark. Comparing scores between the Zen 3 5950X and the Zen-based 3950X (via AnandTech), which carry the same amount of cores, the 5950X offers a 18% and 12% advantage, respectively, in the single and multi-threaded tests - not a far cry from AMD's touted 19% IPC uplift.  That excitement will be intensified following leaked benchmark results showing the Ryzen 5 5600X outperforming Intel’s Core i5-10600K. Both chips feature a six-core/12-thread design, and while AMD’s offering has 32MB of L3 cache compared to the Intel chip’s 12MB, its 3.7 GHz base/4.6 GHz boost clocks can’t match the i5-10600K’s 4.1 GHz/4.8 GHz specs. Team blue’s processor also comes with a 125W TDP, whereas the Ryzen 5 5600X is rated at 65W. 

 

On paper, one would expect Intel’s product to be the better performer, but it seems the Zen 3 architecture has something to say about that assumption. The Ryzen 5 5600X scores 255.22 GOPS in the Processor Arithmetic test and 904.38 Mpix/s in the Processor Multi-Media test. The Core i5-10600K, meanwhile, managed averages of 224.07 GOPS and 662.33 Mpix/s, respectively. That makes the Ryzen CPU 13.9 percent and 36.5 percent faster, respectively, than its rival.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Source 5: https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-5900x-zen-3-cpus-performance-benchmark

Source 6: https://www.techspot.com/news/87194-ryzen-5-5600x-benchmarks-appear-cruise-past-intel.html

Source 7: https://www.techpowerup.com/273587/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-5950x-also-benchmarked-in-geekbench-5

Source 8: https://ranker.sisoftware.co.uk/show_run.php?q=c2ffcee889e8d5eddeeadce8dafc8eb383a5c0a598a88efdc0f8&l=en

 

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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core CPU Hits 5GHz Without Breaking A Sweat

 

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The Ryzen 9 5950X was just a few megahertz shy of 5GHz in yesterday's leaked benchmarks. However, the 16-core monster (via @Tum_Apisak) has redeemed itself today by shattering the 5GHz mark. Now we see a more mature Zen 3 opening the door for higher clock speeds as shown by the trio of Ryzen 5000 parts that are dancing around the 5-GHz line. Bear in mind that the Ryzen 5000 results correspond to the best scores out of the limited submissions so far. On the contrary, the scores for the other processors are the average performance based on every submission. Primate Labs Inc. updated the scores around 12 hours ago. The Ryzen 9 5950X is the current champ in Geekbench 5's single-core charts. The 16-core processor blew past the Core i9-10900K in the single-core test by 17.7% even though Intel's chip flexes a 5.3 GHz maximum boost clock. In regards to multi-core performance, the Ryzen 9 5950X was up to 6.9% faster than Intel's Core i9-10980XE. Intel Xeon and AMD's own Ryzen Threadripper processors were the only ones to beat the Ryzen 9 5950X. The excitement for Ryzen 5000 processors builds up with every leaked benchmark result. The Zen 3 processors have shown substantial IPC enhancements and now the potential to boost close to or past 5 GHz.

 

Source 9: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=5950X

Source 10: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-5ghz-benchmarks 

 

[spartaman64]

holy crap thats huge

[hollyh88]

i do wish that the 5600x would have 8 cores. but it probably will not sadly.. but ill be going with the 5700x for sure if its reasonably priced! 

would be a huuuuuge upgrade over my old 2600x.

[BiG StroOnZ]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

holy crap thats huge

 

That's what she said. 

[Taf the Ghost]

The 5Ghz rumor only comes from someone speculating and it's been flying around since. The TT piece is hot garbage.

[spartaman64]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

The 5Ghz rumor only comes from someone speculating and it's been flying around since. The TT piece is hot garbage.

yeah that seems a bit extreme but if just the IPC rumor is true then that would be still awesome

[DildorTheDecent]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

The 5Ghz rumor only comes from someone speculating and it's been flying around since. The TT piece is hot garbage.

This. 5GHz has been speculated as far back as the rumoured "2800X" https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60100/amds-new-ryzen-7-2800x-teased-12c-24t-up-5-1ghz/index.html

 

I just hope they've got more FCLK + lower cache/memory latencies.

[Moonzy]

as always, wait for benchmarks, availability, and beta testers to finish testing before purchasing

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

yeah that seems a bit extreme but if just the IPC rumor is true then that would be still awesome

The Ashes benchmark is real. Game seems pretty sensitive to memory speeds, so jacking it really high can neutralize the advantage a bit. It's a bit higher of a jump than you can generally expect. Expect things 5-20% improved across the board. 12% IPC is the number to watch out for. Real test is things like Far Cry, where we get a chance to see where the changes to latency are at. That's the only actual difference in gaming.

[hollyh88]

1 minute ago, DildorTheDecent said:

I just hope they've got more FCLK + lower cache/memory latencies.

i mean hasnt this been confirmed already though? that the latency was reduces by a huge margin due to the different layout compared to zen 2? 

[Techstorm970]

"12C/24T and up to 5GHz..."

"...17% IPC improvement..."

"...with Only 150w TDP"

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, hollyh88 said:

i mean hasnt this been confirmed already though? that the latency was reduces by a huge margin due to the different layout compared to zen 2? 

We only know for certain that the L3 cache is unified across a chiplet. We have some rough ideas because the Server companies have had working silicon for 9+ months. It's a solid upgrade for server stuff, but the gaming side might be a bigger jump. We'll have to wait and see.

[xg32]

After 15 years, i'm ready to be an intel victim again like the good ol' Prescott days. AMD FINALLY DID IT. WOOO.

[dizmo]

It'll be interesting to see what they've actually come up with, how much turns out to be marketing hype, and how much is just rampant rumor speculation.

I'm more interested to see what they do with AM5, and how long they choose to support it for.

 

I can't wait until AMD takes the crown for performance, and we start to see them pricing their CPUs higher....and people start crying about it.

"But but...they always priced themselves lower!"

 

14 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

what's that sound? intel filing for bankruptcy?

Hahaha. You're hilarious. AMD has a long, long way to go before they're even CLOSE to Intel.

12 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

Easy to read comparison

Source: https://twitter.com/CapFrameX/status/1310849002439663616/photo/1

Interesting. I mean, I know it's only one benchmark and it's nowhere near indicative of overall performance, but everyone was shouting lately how AMD was taking the gaming crown. If this extrapolates across more titles, it still doesn't look to be true, especially since the 10600k nips at the heels of the 10700k in most titles.

[Shimejii]

This is not gonna happen. Stop feeding the Garbage hype train websites. 

 

It is Not possible for them to jump from 4.3 GHZ all core, to 5 ghz all core in one leap  TweakTown is a dumpster fire of a website and is not a reliable source. If you wanna be a smartass and go well Actually ryzen has a 4.7ghz boost and 5 ghz is attainable, almost every single chip of ryzen doesnt go beyond 4.4/4.5 ghz under load without exotic cooling. Its gonna take 2-3 generations (this would be the 1st one) to get to that point.

 

I dont really give much to the "Boost clock" because 99% of the time, you wont ever see the boost clock actually work. My 3800x Has a Decent Boost clock, i have never seen it actually run at it during any task or game. What matters is All core performance, and Single core on workloads that use that. 

 

I expect these CPUS to get around 4.6/4.7 Ghz All core, which fits the model of 200 mhz increases as Nodes get better for them and they tweak their architecture

[WereCat]

I'm sure the Zen 3 will be better than Zen 2, don't worry guys at least wait till Oct8

[Tristerin]

Id upgrade it, Id upgrade it hard

[FloRolf]

Meanwhile my 3900X heats up like a motherf#cker with a 240 AIO. Maybe it's just my Chip but I really wouldn't want another 50% power pumping through my sad loop. 

[jake1010]

Noctua coolers

"Let us introduce ourselves"

3 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Meanwhile my 3900X heats up like a motherf#cker with a 240 AIO. Maybe it's just my Chip but I really wouldn't want another 50% power pumping through my sad loop. 

 

[porina]

A quick comment on the 150W TDP, this could be AMD aligning TDP with PPT. For example, the 105W TDP 3900X actually runs at a PPT limit of 142W stock. If they make TDP=PPT=150W that isn't actually much of an increase.

[cj09beira]

9 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Meanwhile my 3900X heats up like a motherf#cker with a 240 AIO. Maybe it's just my Chip but I really wouldn't want another 50% power pumping through my sad loop. 

thats not a heat problem its a heat density problem, 7nm is too damn dense, so its getting really hard to get the heat out, and moving the io away from the cores meant that there is less low power silicon that also helped dissipating the heat from the cores

[Bombastinator]

8 minutes ago, jake1010 said:

Noctua coolers

"Let us introduce ourselves"

 

I don’t think cooler type will help.  There appears to be a heat transfer bottleneck below the IHS.  More cooler won’t do much.  The issue seems to be that there’s only so much silicon surface area to transfer heat through.

[Blademaster91]

4 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

thats not a heat problem its a heat density problem, 7nm is too damn dense, so its getting really hard to get the heat out, and moving the io away from the cores meant that there is less low power silicon that also helped dissipating the heat from the cores

Its also because the the Zen 2 cpu die is offset from the center, most AIO's don't deal with that as well as an air cooler.

[RejZoR]

Let me just extend the "double the performance" rule on CPU's too. While current Ryzens were nice, they didn't quite deliver the punch for me. 5GHz boost with 12 cores means I'm doubling the core count and 5GHz paired with massive IPC jumps, I think I'll actually be refreshing my system in 2021 for real. I just hope Intel will release something half worthy so AMD remains aggressive on the pricing front. I don't want this thing to cost 1000€ just coz AMD won't have any real competition Then I smack RX 6000 or RTX 3080 in that system and I'm good for next 6 or so years. On platform front that is.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 hour ago, yaboistar said:

what's that sound? intel filing for bankruptcy?

I think I hear the cries of Intel stock holders