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Making Nvidia’s CEO mad

Nvidia’s not done yet – Their brand new, fastest-ever GPU just got smoked by their own RTX 3090. But is it good enough to fork over $1500?

 

 

Buy an RTX 3090:
On Amazon (PAID LINK): TBD
On Newegg (PAID LINK): TBD
On B&H (PAID LINK): TBD

 

Buy an RTX 3080:
On Amazon (PAID LINK): sorry
On Newegg (PAID LINK): none left
On B&H (PAID LINK): RIP

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Funny how even a 1500$ GPU is instantly sold out and brings enough traffic to completely DDOS all the german retailers again :D 

 

Just like with the 3080, none of the inventory went to the actual customers who plan to use it. The complete inventory already moved over to Ebay listings for 20000€+... I hate people.

 

Not that i wanted to buy one myself, but this is just ridiculous.

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So it's never been a Titan, and there'll be a real Titan coming at some point.

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I think it is safe to say that there won't be 3080 Ti, despite what some people were suggesting. I guess the 20 GB version of 3080 won't be any faster either.

Tho Nvidia will probably release card that is even faster than 3090 in a year or so.

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16 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Funny how even a 1500$ GPU is instantly sold out and brings enough traffic to completely DDOS all the german retailers again :D 

 

Just like with the 3080, none of the inventory went to the actual customers who plan to use it. The complete inventory already moved over to Ebay listings for 20000€+... I hate people.

 

Not that i wanted to buy one myself, but this is just ridiculous.

Well this won't last nearly as long as the 3080. Let's be honest here. This is a 1500$ graphics card, very few people are actually going to get it compared to nvidia's other offerings.

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7 minutes ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

Well this won't last nearly as long as the 3080. Let's be honest here. This is a 1500$, very few people are actually going to get it compared to nvidia's other offerings.

NVIDIA never had problems selling the 2080Ti, even though it was over 1300$ for most of the models. Sadly, many people are willing to spend that much just to have the best of the best. Even if you only get 15% more for 100% more money. Most of these cards will probably end up in gaming-PCs that run Fortnite, CS:GO, Rainbow Six, Minecraft and Overwatch at 1080p low. Seeing the performance of the 3080 really makes we wonder who would actually need the extra performance coming from the 3090. And 8K gaming is really just a fantasy at this point, because the TVs alone are so expensive, no person with a normal income can actually buy one.

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6 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

NVIDIA never had problems selling the 2080Ti, even though it was over 1300$ for most of the models. Sadly, many people are willing to spend that much just to have the best of the best. Even if you only get 15% more for 100% more money. Most of these cards will probably end up in gaming-PCs that run Fortnite, CS:GO, Rainbow Six, Minecraft and Overwatch.

People just buy it for the bragging rights. The price is actually one of the selling point.

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In France, it's in stock for 1549 € :)

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Jesus, check Gamers Nexus review. Tehc Jesus teared Nvidia whole bunch of new holes.

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46 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

Jesus, check Gamers Nexus review. Tehc Jesus teared Nvidia whole bunch of new holes.

 

Not only was GN video extremely fun, with bribes and all but also surprising.  Do not understand why TLL did't speak about the extremely poor 8k performance.

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Not only was GN video extremely fun, with bribes and all but also surprising.  Do not understand why TLL did't speak about the extremely poor 8k performance.

Cause they took the money, obviously.

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wait y'all actually believed going from 2000 to 3000 would let you run at 8k native at 60fps? without dlss? just cause nvidia said so? am i understanding you guys right? lmfao

 

 

anyways ltt vid was pretty much what i expected zzzzz i'm just gonna buy a ps5 instead

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3 hours ago, GabenJr said:

Nvidia’s not done yet – Their brand new, fastest-ever GPU just got smoked by their own RTX 3090. But is it good enough to fork over $1500?

 

 

 

Linus quite rightly said it at the 10:00 to 10:30 mark.

 

The 3090 is NOT a Titan.

 

So once again, just like the 2080ti when it launched, all those people defending its placement and price, were wrong.

 

The 3090 is NOT a Titan, its also NOT a Dual GPU card like previous generation x90 cards.

 

So what is it?

 

ATM its a 3080ti, at $1500. Its being marketed as a gaming card.

 

Its lack of Titanesq abilities, but inclusion of Titan like VRAM, make it an somewhat confused card.

 

What we can take away from these final benchmarks and responses from Nvidia is this.

 

Expect a 3080ti. Similar specs to a 3090 but with less VRAM.

Expect a new Titan, with the full abilities a Titan usually has, possibly with even more VRAM, and maybe something extra in the GPU itself. Priced likely at $2500+

 

3080ti Price.....If AMD beats or matches the 3080 for less cost, we should 'reasonably' expect a 'normally' priced 3080ti, probably slightly higher than the historic average of $700, but close enough.

If AMD does NOT beat or match the 3080 for a lower price, and/or beats the 3080 substantially, coming close to or matching the 3090, but for $1000+, expect Nvidia to price a 3080ti at $1000+.

 

Long story short.

30 series is only a substantial step up vs the 20 series due to how poor the 20 series was.

As expected the 3090 is 10-15% better than the 3080 at gaming.

Nvidia is actively trying to increase top gaming cards price tier.

 

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27 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Linus quite rightly said it at the 10:00 to 10:30 mark.

 

The 3090 is NOT a Titan.

 

So once again, just like the 2080ti when it launched, all those people defending its placement and price, were wrong.

 

The 3090 is NOT a Titan, its also NOT a Dual GPU card like previous generation x90 cards.

 

So what is it?

 

ATM its a 3080ti, at $1500. Its being marketed as a gaming card.

 

Its lack of Titanesq abilities, but inclusion of Titan like VRAM, make it an somewhat confused card.

 

What we can take away from these final benchmarks and responses from Nvidia is this.

 

Expect a 3080ti. Similar specs to a 3090 but with less VRAM.

Expect a new Titan, with the full abilities a Titan usually has, possibly with even more VRAM, and maybe something extra in the GPU itself. Priced likely at $2500+

 

3080ti Price.....If AMD beats or matches the 3080 for less cost, we should 'reasonably' expect a 'normally' priced 3080ti, probably slightly higher than the historic average of $700, but close enough.

If AMD does NOT beat or match the 3080 for a lower price, and/or beats the 3080 substantially, coming close to or matching the 3090, but for $1000+, expect Nvidia to price a 3080ti at $1000+.

 

Long story short.

30 series is only a substantial step up vs the 20 series due to how poor the 20 series was.

As expected the 3090 is 10-15% better than the 3080 at gaming.

Nvidia is actively trying to increase top gaming cards price tier.

 

It's also not an 8K card like they tried to make out.

Dirty Windows Peasants :P ?

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2 hours ago, Kroon said:

 

Not only was GN video extremely fun, with bribes and all but also surprising.  Do not understand why TLL did't speak about the extremely poor 8k performance.

We did show 8K performance both with DLSS on and off in Wolfenstein. As for why not more 8K testing, that's mostly because I primarily wanted to compare with other cards, and I figured that most people wouldn't actually care about 8K in detail for reasons outlined in the run-up to the 8K section of the video (who has an 8K display?). TL;DR I wanted to do a broader range of tests to keep things relevant.

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Linus Sebastian: "These grapes on the floor.".

 

Arin Hanson: "This grape on the ground.".

 

Coincidence?

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4 minutes ago, GabenJr said:

(who has an 8K display?)

With four 4K TV at 270 $ unit, you got "8K" for 1080 $ :D

 

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at 2:22

 

"you're gonna want the world's fastest gaming CPU, cause anything else will be leaving performance on the table"

 

even at 8K, 30fps?

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4 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

I think it is safe to say that there won't be 3080 Ti, despite what some people were suggesting

What makes you say that?\

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35 minutes ago, GabenJr said:

We did show 8K performance both with DLSS on and off in Wolfenstein. -snip-

Yes but you EXTREMELY different view on this is remarkable.  This makes for really confused viewers. 

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On availability

 

My hunch is that Nvidia does not expect normal people to really want a 3090 or 3080.  That they have been pumping out 10x as many 3070 class GPU's as 3080's and 3090's.  The 3070 is the card that is a relevant, easy, drop in upgrade for a 2080 or even a 1080.  

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5 hours ago, Fatih19 said:

So it's never been a Titan, and there'll be a real Titan coming at some point.

 

Like AMD, like Nvidia.

 

The stock Threadripper 3990X only supports 64 PCIe lanes while the Threadripper Pro line and EPYCs support up to 128 lanes.

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