I screwed up and bought an OEM 10600k from Scan instead of a retail 10600k...

[GuruMeditationError]

As per title...

...it arrived loose in a box with no retail packaging. What are the odds that it's been used and isn't a good overclocker?

I'm concerned I've negatively biased my silicone lottery chances.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

When you try it you'll know.

[Guest]

Tray CPUs are common.

Your silicon lottery chances are similar.

[Jake13942]

That's NOT an OEM, Intels sells it as box package or as a tray with multiple chips in it, it's the same chip, just packaged as single or multiple. It's a K so you have equal chances for a Silicon Lottery.

[GuruMeditationError]

1 minute ago, Den-Fi said:

Tray CPUs are common.

You're silicon lottery chances are similar.

I'm not sure I really understand it. How would a company like Scan Computers have OEM parts? Have they been taken out of pre-builds? Are they second hand? I don't really get it.

But yeah, I hope so, I just can't get past the idea that it might have been knocking around for a while and already been tested and rejected by a previous buyer. 

 

5 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

When you try it you'll know.

I guess so.

I just went to Amazon and cancelled and re-ordered the motherboard I was intending to use it with to get the faster shipping. It's feels like it's taking forever to reach me. 

[GuruMeditationError]

1 minute ago, Jake13942 said:

That's NOT an OEM, Intels sells it as box package or as a tray with multiple chips in it, it's the same chip, just packaged as single or multiple. It's a K so you have equal chances for a Silicon Lottery.

Thanks, I'm just worried it's been used and already tested and might have been returned because it doesn't overclock well.

I think I might contact them and ask how likely that might be, although I'm not sure if it's naïve of me to expect an honest reply.

[Jake13942]

If hitting the silicon lottery matters to you this much then run it, OC it and check, then return it, most of the OC community looking for silicon lottery does this, but I don't recommend it tho.

[Guest]

Just now, GuruMeditationError said:

I'm not sure I really understand it. How would a company like Scan Computers have OEM parts? Have they been taken out of pre-builds? Are they second hand? I don't really get it.

Well Scan is giving me access errors, so I can't see it.

That said, I think you have a misconception about what OEM is.

OEM items are generally made a bit cheaper by shifting the warranty responsibility.

So you can buy OEM Windows licenses, but you don't get support from Microsoft. 

 

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3990x/p/N82E16819113621?Description=oem cpu&cm_re=oem_cpu-_-19-113-621-_-Product

Or this OEM 3990X. It comes without any accessories and the warranty is 30 days.

So I'd be more concerned about the lack of warranty than the possibility that it was used and seek a replacement non-OEM order.

 

[SolarNova]

An OEM CPUs are only slightly cheaper (usually around £10-20), the cost saving is on the packaging and included items.

 

The Chip itself is identical.

[Guest]

You only get 12 months warranty on an oem cpu. The retail version has 3 years. Not really an issue though.

[GuruMeditationError]

16 minutes ago, Jake13942 said:

If hitting the silicon lottery matters to you this much then run it, OC it and check, then return it, most of the OC community looking for silicon lottery does this, but I don't recommend it tho.

To be honest I don't mind getting one that's an average overclocker, I just don't want to end up with one that's below average. It's why receiving a loose part is bothering me. I'm annoyed with myself for making the mistake since both the OEM and retail versions are the same price.

Just ran a search and found that an average 10600k overclock is 4.8 to 5.0GHz so I'd be hoping for a 4.9GHz overclock. If this one's less than 4.8 it's going to be disappointing.

15 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

Well Scan is giving me access errors, so I can't see it.

That said, I think you have a misconception about what OEM is.

OEM items are generally made a bit cheaper by shifting the warranty responsibility.

So you can buy OEM Windows licenses, but you don't get support from Microsoft. 

 

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3990x/p/N82E16819113621?Description=oem cpu&cm_re=oem_cpu-_-19-113-621-_-Product

Or this OEM 3990X. It comes without any accessories and the warranty is 30 days.

So I'd be more concerned about the lack of warranty than the possibility that it was used and seek a replacement non-OEM order.

 

Oh okay, that's not good. I'm going to contact them and enquire about the warranty.
 

 

11 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

An OEM CPUs are only slightly cheaper (usually around £10-20), the cost saving is on the packaging and included items.

 

The Chip itself is identical.

Yeah, but a loose component means it could have been tested and returned already. Also the full retail version is the same price. 

[Guest]

You could always return it if it doesn't overclock that great. There is no guarantee that a retail version would be any better though. Just luck of the draw.

[GuruMeditationError]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

You could always return it if it doesn't overclock that great. There is no guarantee that a retail version would be any better though. Just luck of the draw.

Yeah, I guess I at least get a second chance for a decent overclock this way. If this one O.C.'s to 5GHz under an AIO then it's definitely a keeper, shorter warranty or not.

[Jake13942]

Yes