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RTX 3070 for 1080p 144Hz?

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Please don't listen to the people who say the 3070 is a waste of money at 1080p. Yes, it will not offer much better performance at first since it will be CPU-bound. However, it will offer you more longevity. Consider that, in ~2 years, the 3070 will start to become outdated and less capable, even at 1080p, since game developers will push graphical fidelity further and further. You'll be glad you waited and went with the 3070 and did not spend the equivalent amount on a 2070 Super. Add to this that maybe you'll upgrade your monitor down the line.

 

The 3070 will be far more future proof. However, if you can wait you should. The 3060 may suit your needs better and AMD may also offer something better suited for you.

 

Whatever the case, don't buy a "current gen" card (i.e. RTX 20-series or RX 5000-series) for their MSRP. Unless it has been discounted significantly to account for the new cards coming out, it is a terrible value.

Hello!

 

I am currently in the market for a GPU and had some questions about the new 3070 in particular.  I know that the card is not out yet, and nothing is tested, but based on the information that is currently out for the 3070, do you think it is a waste of money for 1080p 144hz gaming (I have a ryzen 7 3700x for a CPU to note)? Like, I was looking at a 2070 super or 5700XT and I realize that the 3070 is probably going to be around the same price as say the 2070 super with a lot more performance  but if I can't use that extra performance isn't that just money going to waste?

The 3060 may be a better suite, but i don't think that is coming out for a while, and it would be nice to get a GPU in the coming months rather than in Spring time or even later.

 

Let me know your thoughts and or recommendations!

 

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A used 2070s would be fine. Though, with the 3070, you could crank settings and just be fine for a few years.

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3 minutes ago, I Josh I said:

3070, do you think it is a waste of money for 1080p 144hz gaming

no

it will be a excellent choice. you wont even just get 144 fps. more like 200+ fps in most esports titles.

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7 minutes ago, I Josh I said:

Hello!

 

I am currently in the market for a GPU and had some questions about the new 3070 in particular.  I know that the card is not out yet, and nothing is tested, but based on the information that is currently out for the 3070, do you think it is a waste of money for 1080p 144hz gaming (I have a ryzen 7 3700x for a CPU to note)? Like, I was looking at a 2070 super or 5700XT and I realize that the 3070 is probably going to be around the same price as say the 2070 super with a lot more performance  but if I can't use that extra performance isn't that just money going to waste?

The 3060 may be a better suite, but i don't think that is coming out for a while, and it would be nice to get a GPU in the coming months rather than in Spring time or even later.

 

Let me know your thoughts and or recommendations!

 

It will bottleneck a lot. They only time it is fine if you are aiming for a very high fps like 240 or 360 with a 240 HZ or 360 HZ moniter. If you go with 1440p, then it will bottleneck just a bit but wont be as bad as 1080p as the RTX 3070 is good choice for 1440p gaming.

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Depending on which titles you play it's a good choice, especially if you play with Ultra settings and want to make sure you get max performance.

 

7 minutes ago, DESTROYER 123503 said:

It will bottleneck a lot. They only time it is fine if you are aiming for a very high fps like 240 or 360 with a 240 HZ or 360 HZ moniter. If you go with 1440p, then it will bottleneck just a bit but wont be as bad as 1080p as the RTX 3070 is good choice for 1440p gaming.

It won't really bottleneck a 3700x enough to be worth noting.

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17 minutes ago, I Josh I said:

Hello!

 

I am currently in the market for a GPU and had some questions about the new 3070 in particular.  I know that the card is not out yet, and nothing is tested, but based on the information that is currently out for the 3070, do you think it is a waste of money for 1080p 144hz gaming (I have a ryzen 7 3700x for a CPU to note)? Like, I was looking at a 2070 super or 5700XT and I realize that the 3070 is probably going to be around the same price as say the 2070 super with a lot more performance  but if I can't use that extra performance isn't that just money going to waste?

The 3060 may be a better suite, but i don't think that is coming out for a while, and it would be nice to get a GPU in the coming months rather than in Spring time or even later.

 

Let me know your thoughts and or recommendations!

 

Nvidia claims the 3070 is much like a 2080Ti in some cases.
So you could look up 2080Ti numbers to give you a basic gauge of expectations (vs 2070S/5700XT) and from your CPU platform.

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11 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

A used 2070s would be fine. Though, with the 3070, you could crank settings and just be fine for a few years.

But, say the majority of the games I will be playing in the coming years aren't the newest titles and latest, but the games that I do play, I play on high settings. Is it still worth (in broad strokes)  to get the 3070 in your opinion?

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1 minute ago, I Josh I said:

But, say the majority of the games I will be playing in the coming years aren't the newest titles and latest, but the games that I do play, I play on high settings. Is it still worth (in broad strokes)  to get the 3070 in your opinion?

What specific games? 

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The Ampere architecture does not scale down resolutions very well, you are better off getting a  (second hand)Turing 2xxx card if you want to play at 1080p, it will be much better value for money.

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7 minutes ago, I Josh I said:

But, say the majority of the games I will be playing in the coming years aren't the newest titles and latest, but the games that I do play, I play on high settings. Is it still worth (in broad strokes)  to get the 3070 in your opinion?

It depends what games you play for example: Open world games or FPS games. Secondly, what resolution you want to game at. 

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3 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

What specific games? 

Its hard to give specifics, I'm not really interested in cyberpunk but I do enjoy playing games like resident evil, borderlands 3, call of duty war-zone, ect. on higher settings.

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2 minutes ago, DESTROYER 123503 said:

It depends what games you play for example: Open world games or FPS games. Secondly, what resolution you want to game at. 

Games like resident evil, borderlands 3, call of duty war-zone are some of the ones I currently like to play. My preferred resolution is 1920 x 1080.

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Considering that my 2070S + 3900x is 70% CPU bound in tomb raider highest settings, and CPU is only able to push 145fps when not GPU bound

I would say it's going to let you crank all settings at max for the next few years

 

Just make sure your CPU have enough threads so that you won't get frame pacing issues (3700x have plenty)

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15 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Depending on which titles you play it's a good choice, especially if you play with Ultra settings and want to make sure you get max performance.

 

It won't really bottleneck a 3700x enough to be worth noting.

If I don't play on ultra settings or even the newest AAA games, still worth considering?

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3 minutes ago, I Josh I said:

Games like resident evil, borderlands 3, call of duty war-zone are some of the ones I currently like to play. My preferred resolution is 1920 x 1080.

Since you game at 1080p, you have two choices. You could buy a RTX 2070 or a RTX 3060. 

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1 minute ago, I Josh I said:

If I don't play on ultra settings or even the newest AAA games, still worth considering?

If you're willing to put medium or low, then it's not worth it

It's worth it if you want to crank high or ultra and still keep the frame rate and frame time buttery smooth

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3 minutes ago, DESTROYER 123503 said:

Since you game at 1080p, you have two choices. You could buy a RTX 2070 or a RTX 3060. 

That's what I was sort of concluding, and its a logical conclusion. And in regards to the 3060, is there any rumoured date when that will be out? I am assuming not for a while.

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3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

If you're willing to put medium or low, then it's not worth it

It's worth it if you want to crank high or ultra and still keep the frame rate and frame time buttery smooth

Yeah, I usually don't game at the absolute max settings so the extra performance from the 3070 would be wasted, in my opinion.

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A 3070 will allow you to play at 144 Hz 1080p in AAA games with the settings cranked up to ultra. 
It would also handle 1440p 144Hz which is in my experience (having just upgraded from a 1080p 165Hz to a 1440p 165Hz monitor) is a much better choice for a 3070. My 5700XT performs well paired with this monitor so I imagine a 3070 would do even better. 

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Please don't listen to the people who say the 3070 is a waste of money at 1080p. Yes, it will not offer much better performance at first since it will be CPU-bound. However, it will offer you more longevity. Consider that, in ~2 years, the 3070 will start to become outdated and less capable, even at 1080p, since game developers will push graphical fidelity further and further. You'll be glad you waited and went with the 3070 and did not spend the equivalent amount on a 2070 Super. Add to this that maybe you'll upgrade your monitor down the line.

 

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16 minutes ago, I Josh I said:

If I don't play on ultra settings or even the newest AAA games, still worth considering?

If they're older games then you'd probably be fine waiting and saving some money with the 3060.

You might also be able to snag a 2070 for a killer price if people start selling them off.

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9 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If they're older games then you'd probably be fine waiting and saving some money with the 3060.

You might also be able to snag a 2070 for a killer price if people start selling them off.

That sounds like a good idea as well. I won't make any impulsive decisions at the moment, and instead will wait till the 3070 comes out and go from there.

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