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3080's 10GB VRAM: Is it enough?

As a person who is thinking about buying a 3080 at some point, I'd like to ask a question.

I've been seeing most people say that 10GBs of VRAM is not enough for the near future (2021-2022)

I now have a 1080p monitor, I'll be using the 3080 with that first, and when I get the money, I might upgrade to a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

So the questions are: Is 10GB's of VRAM that is in the 3080 enough? Does GDDR6X make up for the shortage of VRAM when compared to 2080ti's 11GBs of VRAM?

 

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10GB is overkill,

Most modern GPUs have 6GB or 8GB.

I have 6GB and it's more than enough for 1440p.

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Truth be told, nobody knows. As far as this moment, MS Flight Sim will max out all the VRAM you can throw at it on high resolutions but that is the exception, rather than the rule. The vast majority of games are perfectly fine with 8GB or less right now.

 

The main cause for concern is that both next-gen Xbox and PlayStation consoles are shipping with 16GB of VRAM, and the broad assumption is that when you give developers a resource like that to play with, they will find a way to use it, and subsequently cross-platform titles will develop an appetite for more VRAM than is commonly available. But it is impossible to say until it happens.

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just wait there will be a 20gb 3080 and 16gb 3070 so you'll have more choices

and AMD also will have other gpus

so wait until early November

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yes it is enough for 1440p gaming. For how long well I don't know depends on the game. I wouldn't worry about it tho because AAA games use around 7gbs of vram at 1440p at the current year. 

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Just now, FaxedForward said:

The main cause for concern is that both next-gen Xbox and PlayStation consoles are shipping with 16GB of VRAM

That's a misunderstanding,

In next gen consoles the CPU will be using 8GB of VRAM as RAM,and the GPU will have 8GB available for it.

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There was a (was it GN or Jayz)video recently, where they talked about how most of the time, VRAM can be "maxed out" when it was just all allocated.

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17 minutes ago, FaxedForward said:

The main cause for concern is that both next-gen Xbox and PlayStation consoles are shipping with 16GB of VRAM

That's 16GB total system RAM, (it's using GDDR6 for everything instead of DDR4 for system RAM like a PC) with half being dedicated to the GPU, much the same way integrated graphics work on PCs. That means it's 8GB of RAM dedicated to the GPU, and 8GB dedicated to the system. This is an extremely average RAM arrangement for mid-low end gaming PCs currently on the market.

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Just now, BTGbullseye said:

That's 16GB total system RAM, with half being dedicated to the GPU, much the same way integrated graphics work on PCs. That means it's 8GB of RAM dedicated to the GPU, and 8GB dedicated to the system. This is an extremely average RAM arrangement for mid-low end gaming PCs currently on the market.

Not the same way, usually the PC igpu memory is not split evenly. Iirc an a 4gb laptop, it's > 1gb dedicated to the igpu.

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21 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

There was a (was it GN or Jayz)video recently, where they talked about how most of the time, VRAM can be "maxed out" when it was just all allocated.

It was a GN video, don't remember which one exactly but if I remember correctly the general point was that the system will show that all the memory is allocated, which might be true, but just because it is allocated does not mean it is actually being actively used. 

 

Edit: Found the video, it was the 3080 FE review linked below. The part about the VRAM is at 2:58 - 4:28.

 

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37 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Not the same way, usually the PC igpu memory is not split evenly. Iirc an a 4gb laptop, it's > 1gb dedicated to the igpu.

It's dynamic. It automatically adjusts based on allocation. It defaults to an 8/8 split. This is identical to how iGPUs on PCs work. (PCs automatically split it half and half if at 16GB or more RAM)

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1 hour ago, Shimejii said:

10GB is plenty. Youll be fine for the next 3-4 years, those that say otherwise need to get rid of their crystal balls. The games will run with what they are given, and 10 GB is plenty for them.

Sure they will, but will they run fast enough to play?  An ultralight laptop Uclass iGPU will RUN a triple A game.  The problem is 12fps isn’t useable.  There are several reasons but the one that matters most for memory size is swap.

 A Swapfile is hard drive space used as memory. Hard drives used to BE ram.  There was this stuff called drum memory that was basically a barrel shaped hard drive. The whole sector/track thing comes directly from that system.  a modern computer has as much memory as it needs because it digs into slow storage to get it.  You don’t see many “out of memory” errors these days. The problem with swap is it runs at storage speeds which are orders of magnitude slower than DDR(number) Any swap at all and you’ve got big problems.  Lots of swap and they could be fatal. Games run on buffered frames. Creates time limitations.

 

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1 hour ago, Vishera said:

That's a misunderstanding,

In next gen consoles the CPU will be using 8GB of VRAM as RAM,and the GPU will have 8GB available for it.

That clears everything up if that's the case in next-gen consoles.

 

1 hour ago, YsGrandi said:

just wait there will be a 20gb 3080 and 16gb 3070 so you'll have more choices

and AMD also will have other gpus

so wait until early November

That is true, however there are speculations about a big price difference between 10gb model and 20gb model and I don't think I will really need a 20GB GPU.

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3 hours ago, Consul said:

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it's "enough", though there's solid evidence that the 3080 is gimped for a card between the 3080 and 3090 later for those that wait.

 

games that crash on the 2080 ti due to not enough vram: RE3R with maxed out settings at 4k, BL3 when there are enough guns next to the safe, gtav with certain texture mods above 1080p.

 

games that actually maxes out vram but do not crash: flight sim, zero dawn, bfv on certain maps.

 

it's still pretty fringe but definitely not futureproofed. 

 

a 3080 for 700usd is a good deal, don't let the vram thing stop you, just know that it's cutting it close.

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