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29 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

NVIDIA over exaggerated the 3080, but it does get about 80% more performance than the 2080 Zotac

How is that over exaggerated? Nvidia claimed a 80% improvement over the 2080. And they hit their mark.

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I'm not an nVidia user myself but it's damn impressive improvement from a 2080. Extremely good for consumers considering the launch price.

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14 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Seeing the hype for an insanely expensive card.

MSRP 699$ (yeah, right)

Not being a gamer: Priceless.

 

Well they aren't expensive compared to the previous cards which is kinda the point.

 

Those things will fly off the shelves!

 

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3 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

They said 2x Performance, the didn't say "in some workloads only".

 

Thats just marketing though.

They also probably said   *up to

 

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AMD will have to pull some serious rabbits out of their hats.

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It was overhyped as expected. Still im only interested in the 3070 so i hope it'll atleast be on par with a 2080 ti

 

If not ill just pick up a second hand 2080 ti as i dont care at all about any rtx features.

 

 

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1 minute ago, mousesnob said:

It was overhyped as expected. Still im only interested in the 3070 so i hope it'll be more interesting.

 

If not ill just pick up a second hand 2080 ti as i dont care at all about any rtx features.

it looks like the rtx gains were overhyped too, i'm seeing the same gains on or off.

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So far watched Bitwit, LTT, Hardware Canuks, and skimmed the TPU article linked earlier in this thread. I think it is pretty much where it is expected to be. The 2x was best case so that not hitting it in all cases is not a surprise at all, and in higher resolution scenarios it gives a decent uplift over Turing. I think that is it's main benefit, rather than cranking out insane fps at 1080p.

 

I was debating holding out for a possible 20GB version in response to whatever AMD might eventually come up with, but to be realistic if I have a 3080 in my system I'd be gaming in glorious 4k60+ without problem. I guess this then flips the question over, not if should, but can I get one tomorrow? I'm not paying for a 3090, and the 3070 will be lower performance than I'm aiming for, so no point waiting for either. I can't see AMD doing anything meaningful to make me switch.

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24 minutes ago, pas008 said:

please someone quote me when some written numbers come up

Here are some written numbers: https://tweakers.net/reviews/8152/1/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-maakt-nvidia-de-hoge-verwachtingen-waar-inleiding.html quite a few written numbers, actually. :P It's in Dutch, but with google translate or so you'll get quite far, and the graphs should be understandable anyways. :)

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One of the satisfying things about my setup is knowing that I play against people using GPUs that cost more than my entire system only for them to get dumpstered by me here gaming on an APU.

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5 minutes ago, porina said:

So far watched Bitwit, LTT, Hardware Canuks, and skimmed the TPU article linked earlier in this thread. I think it is pretty much where it is expected to be. The 2x was best case so that not hitting it in all cases is not a surprise at all, and in higher resolution scenarios it gives a decent uplift over Turing. I think that is it's main benefit, rather than cranking out insane fps at 1080p.

 

I was debating holding out for a possible 20GB version in response to whatever AMD might eventually come up with, but to be realistic if I have a 3080 in my system I'd be gaming in glorious 4k60+ without problem. I guess this then flips the question over, not if should, but can I get one tomorrow? I'm not paying for a 3090, and the 3070 will be lower performance than I'm aiming for, so no point waiting for either. I can't see AMD doing anything meaningful to make me switch.

i think in ur case just get a 10gb version for instant satisfaction, only remaining concern is the binning report that 30% is bottom bin and 60% is middle, while the top 10% are reserved and not out yet, it might not be a bad thing if u can't get one, but whether you try is ur call. If you put more money into a 20gb version, then you'd have to wait AND u go closer to paying 3090 money...doesn't seem worth it.

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32 minutes ago, Consul said:

Okay so I have a 8700k and I want to buy a 3080.
I need to upgrade my 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor in order to essentially remove the bottleneck, right?
(However I will be using my 1080p monitor until I have the money for a 1440p and regardless of bottleneck, its still going to be a huge upgrade from a 1060 6gb)

i wouldn't upgrade the monitor just to remove a bottleneck, is the picture quality better, is the dpi even better.

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8 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i think in ur case just get a 10gb version for instant satisfaction, only remaining concern is the binning report that 30% is bottom bin and 60% is middle, while the top 10% are reserved and not out yet, it might not be a bad thing if u can't get one, but whether you try is ur call. If you put more money into a 20gb version, then you'd have to wait AND u go closer to paying 3090 money...doesn't seem worth it.

What binning report? Got a link?

 

I'd almost certainly run stock anyway, maybe even on power limit if I want to keep my house cooler before winter finally comes back. On that note... it would be an interesting exercise I don't know if anyone has done yet. What if you took a 2080Ti and a 3080, and set the power limit on both to 250W. How would they compare then? Reference 2080 Ti is already 250W TDP, so it wouldn't change much unless you have a factory OC card set a bit higher. This might not be interesting to most, but I saw a big improvement in power efficiency going from Pascal to Turing.

 

The 20GB is more a want than a need. It might have slightly longer useful working life if game devs start offering bigger texture packs for example. This might make more sense if people now have the power to use 4k more.

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6 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i wouldn't upgrade the monitor just to remove a bottleneck, is the picture quality better, is the dpi even better.

It obviously comes with more pros other than removing the bottleneck.
And I feel like it still will be worth to upgrade from a 1060 6gb regardless of the bottleneck.

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Just now, porina said:

What binning report? Got a link?

 

I'd almost certainly run stock anyway, maybe even on power limit if I want to keep my house cooler before winter finally comes back. On that note... it would be an interesting exercise I don't know if anyone has done yet. What if you took a 2080Ti and a 3080, and set the power limit on both to 250W. How would the compare then? Reference 2080 Ti is already 250W TDP, so it wouldn't change much unless you have a factory OC card set a bit higher. This might not be interesting to most, but I saw a big improvement in power efficiency going from Pascal to Turing.

 

The 20GB is more a want than a need. It might have slightly longer useful working life if game devs start offering bigger texture packs for example. This might make more sense if people now have the power to use 4k more.

it probably doesn't matter if u don't oc anyway

 

the strix has a 325w power limit, and it's still slower than the 3080 stock by a good margin, it's a architectural improvement that seems to be about 15-20%

 

 

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56 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

They do every time. Hence why I tell people Wait for the goddamn benchmarks.

 

Now people may or may not get appropriately hyped for these cards. 

Or appropriately hyped for ReeeeeeDNA2.

 

I may or may not be among the latter.

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Not sure what people were expecting tbh. You shouldn't trust marketing and such or you will get your expectations amped up too damn high.

 

Now, onto the results. Honestly, this is what I expected. Nothing absolutely mind-blowing or "OMG, THIS IS SO DAMN GOOD", but we did indeed get a pretty solid bump and also a very nice bump in cost-per-frame improvements.

 

No, it's not quite 2x a 2080 on average and it's not exactly leaving a 2080 Ti extremely far behind in everything, but this is still a good release IMO and assuming you can get a hold of a 3080, should be serving users well for a good while.

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21 minutes ago, xg32 said:

it probably doesn't matter if u don't oc anyway

https://www.igorslab.de/en/chip-is-not-equal-to-chip-first-information-on-the-possibility-to-binning-and-dispersal-at-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/

Fortunately I didn't have to endure his video as he was using the above link as source anyway. Doesn't really tell us anything meaningful.

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3 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

You could use DSR in the meantime.

Wait does dsr increase fps now? Or are you just reffering to getting higher gpu usage?

 

I'll be mostly playing 1080p at low ish settigns

 

 

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That power draw though goddamn

 

 

p.s it's also kinda hilarious to see the 5700XT going 'nope' in LTT's video lol

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50 minutes ago, Fatih19 said:

AMD will have to pull some serious rabbits out of their hats.

When Nvidia claims 2x the performance of 2080. I think it's a very high bar for AMD to reach. Now, the reviews are out. It's more like 50 - 60 percent better. May be AMD can pull something out of the hat to match the 3080. Especially Nvidia sets the state it's ok for a card to draw 300+w.

 

Wait and see. I'm fine with the performance of the 3080. Just want more VRAM for some workload. 16GB would be sweet.

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3 minutes ago, AldiPrayogi said:

That power draw though goddamn

 

 

p.s it's also kinda hilarious to see the 5700XT going 'nope' in LTT's video lol

Lol, right. In some game it's N/A.

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4 minutes ago, Deli said:

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rumors have been 3080 for cheaper, it looks more likely now that the 3080 reviews are out.

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2 minutes ago, xg32 said:

rumors have been 3080 for cheaper, it looks more likely now that the 3080 reviews are out.

Same price but give me more VRAM.

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