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Does my PSU give enough Wattage

Daan._official

Hello everyone, I have a question about my setup and need some advice on the PSU.

 

Recently I've updated my old rig and now it's like this:

MSI Z97 MPower Max AC 

I5 4670K OC'd @ 4,6 Ghz 1.33 V

Sapphire RX 580 8GB stock 

16 GB RAM DDR 3 (4 x 4 mix of Samsung and Crucial) @ 1833 Mhz with pretty high voltage (1.7 V or something)

Normal USB keyboard and mouse

Thermaltake Headset

1 TB Micron SSD

2 x 7400 RPM Western Digital Blue 1 TB SATA HDD

Presonus USB Audio with Midi keyboard, headset and condenser microphone plugged in

Yamaha HS5 Studio speakers (which use about 80 Watts)

Thermaltake Smart SE Bronze 530 Watts 

 

So that's a lot to take for 530 Watts. It does run stable, but I don't know if either of the components are running at their maximum operational speed.

 

I'm starting to get into overclocking and the GPU doesn't like an overclock. Maybe that's due to the fact that the Sapphire Radeon RX580's are already overclocked versions. But I just want some advice on that. If I fill in my setup on one of those websites with a general GPU overclock in mind, it says I need about 916 Watts. I also filled in a 24 inch LED Screen but maybe that's only for laptops. That would result in about a 160 Watt decrease. But the speakers then again add another 90. Which would mean I need a pretty large power supply. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

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If you don't have any stability issues, why do you care? Also, those PSU calculators are mostly BS.

Note: Just buy some quality 750W Gold PSU and you will be okay forever.

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Outverision power supply calculator is unrealistic at best, but when you feed it bad information by sliding the overclocking/voltage sliders to the max then you can't really blame it for giving you a completely bogus estimate. Unless you're doing liquid nitrogen overclocking on both the CPU and GPU you're not going to be seeing anywhere near 900W power draw from an i5 CPU and RX 580 graphics card.

 

7 minutes ago, Daan._official said:

I also filled in a 24 inch LED Screen but maybe that's only for laptops. That would result in about a 160 Watt decrease. But the speakers then again add another 90. Which would mean I need a pretty large power supply. 

Monitors are not powered by the computers power supply; they have their own power supply and cord. I also doubt your 24" LED monitor is drawing 160W. Where did you get that figure from?
Same goes for any speaker system that would draw 90W of power; you're not going to be drawing 90W through a 3.5mm audio jack or USB cable for a set of basic desktop speakers. The Yamaha speakers you list in your post have their own power supply and power cord that plug in to the wall. They don't receive power from the PC power supply.

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17 minutes ago, H6NS said:

If you don't have any stability issues, why do you care? Also, those PSU calculators are mostly BS.

Note: Just buy some quality 750W Gold PSU and you will be okay forever.

Because I want to overclock the gpu and other components further if it's possible 

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20 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Outverision power supply calculator is unrealistic at best, but when you feed it bad information by sliding the overclocking/voltage sliders to the max then you can't really blame it for giving you a completely bogus estimate. Unless you're doing liquid nitrogen overclocking on both the CPU and GPU you're not going to be seeing anywhere near 900W power draw from an i5 CPU and RX 580 graphics card.

 

Monitors are not powered by the computers power supply; they have their own power supply and cord. I also doubt your 24" LED monitor is drawing 160W. Where did you get that figure from?
Same goes for any speaker system that would draw 90W of power; you're not going to be drawing 90W through a 3.5mm audio jack or USB cable for a set of basic desktop speakers. The Yamaha speakers you list in your post have their own power supply and power cord that plug in to the wall. They don't receive power from the PC power supply.

I got the figure from the same website, just leaving everything out and then just filling in that LED Screen. Your mention of the speakers is correct, I totally forgot about that. 

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21 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Outverision power supply calculator is unrealistic at best, but when you feed it bad information by sliding the overclocking/voltage sliders to the max then you can't really blame it for giving you a completely bogus estimate. Unless you're doing liquid nitrogen overclocking on both the CPU and GPU you're not going to be seeing anywhere near 900W power draw from an i5 CPU and RX 580 graphics card.

 

But giving it max power and then adjusting the core and memory clock is the easiest way to overclock it right? 

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1 hour ago, Daan._official said:

But giving it max power and then adjusting the core and memory clock is the easiest way to overclock it right? 

If you consider liquid nitrogen easy, then yes.

 

In overclocking you quite quickly hit a wall where a slight performance increase will increase power consumption by 20-100%. It makes no sense to go after those clockspeeds with a system you use daily with aircoolers. And amd gpu:s tend to respond better to undervolting than pushing everything as high as you can because then you are less likely to hit temperature limits.

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Umm guys I'm a psu noob but aren't thermaltake known for making bad psus in general? If so it might be better to concentrate on that and get this poster a proper psu where they can do some basic overclocking...?

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21 hours ago, Daan._official said:

Thermaltake Smart SE Bronze 530 Watts 

 

So that's a lot to take for 530 Watts.

not really. 

 

the issue is really the quality of that PSU. 

 

it being group regulated. id look at changing it at some point in the near future for a decent unit.

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22 hours ago, Daan._official said:

Hello everyone, I have a question about my setup and need some advice on the PSU.

 

Recently I've updated my old rig and now it's like this:

MSI Z97 MPower Max AC 

I5 4670K OC'd @ 4,6 Ghz 1.33 V

Sapphire RX 580 8GB stock 

16 GB RAM DDR 3 (4 x 4 mix of Samsung and Crucial) @ 1833 Mhz with pretty high voltage (1.7 V or something)

Normal USB keyboard and mouse

Thermaltake Headset

1 TB Micron SSD

2 x 7400 RPM Western Digital Blue 1 TB SATA HDD

Presonus USB Audio with Midi keyboard, headset and condenser microphone plugged in

Yamaha HS5 Studio speakers (which use about 80 Watts)

Thermaltake Smart SE Bronze 530 Watts 

 

So that's a lot to take for 530 Watts. It does run stable, but I don't know if either of the components are running at their maximum operational speed.

 

I'm starting to get into overclocking and the GPU doesn't like an overclock. Maybe that's due to the fact that the Sapphire Radeon RX580's are already overclocked versions. But I just want some advice on that. If I fill in my setup on one of those websites with a general GPU overclock in mind, it says I need about 916 Watts. I also filled in a 24 inch LED Screen but maybe that's only for laptops. That would result in about a 160 Watt decrease. But the speakers then again add another 90. Which would mean I need a pretty large power supply. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

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Seasonic PSU calculator. 

 

Load wattage is 460W

 

Recommended PSU wattage is 510W

 

Seasonic recommends a 650W PSU for your build.

 

 

Which was were I was leaning for a recommendation based on your system and future upgrades etc so it is realistic.

 

Recommended PSU wattage for an RX 580 is 550W, so there is that.... Want more headroom then get a 650W.

 

Whatever you do get a HIGH QUALITY PSU.

 

Something from Tier A or B

 

 

 

 

 

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Now that PSU calculator that he used is on the high side, I plugged in my system, I know what mine actually pulls wattage wise, 550W+ Gaming and 660W+ full load.... With my actual settings that I use...

 

Compare that to what they say...

 

 

https://outervision.com/b/kVl3qL

 

I don't need a 1200W PSU.. I am running a 850W and it's fine, the 750W I was running was a little tight for my system at around 75% load for my gaming load so.....

 

But anyway, yeah they seem to inflate it more than I would recommend... 

 

Their recommended PSU wattage isn't that far off at 966W (1000W) from my 850W PSU however..... 116W difference really isn't that bad really.... Considering the variables...

 

It was that recommended 1200 PSU they picked that was way over the top...

 

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