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2 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

Where Intel VS AMD seems to be at least a few FPS difference..

3 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

 pcie 4 vs 3 could be a bigger difference" didnt NVIDIA say it wont be a noticeable difference?

neither should be noticeable, especially at 1440p lol

 

assuming you didnt want an rgb build:

 

a few caveats here. first off, if you want more than 1 m.2 drive then this board goes from best b550 to shit b550 cause it drops the gpu to x8 pcie instead of x16. you stick with 1 m.2 and this becomes a 700 euro mobo with the vrms and overclocking capabilities of the x570 xtreme. super kickass as long as you stick to 1 m.2 or dont care about x8 vs x16 lanes (not meaningful with current hardware but likely to be a difference in the next gen or two).

 

second, you will have to overclock the memory. 4000mhz wont work properly with zen 2 so youll need to let it boot into jedec and then go from there. with the xt you can likely get a high fclk and end up with 3733mhz or 3800mhz which is nice, and these dimms are binned such that you can at least hit 3800c14 which is really fuckin fast lol

 

that being said, id personally get a cheaper zen 2 and slot in a zen 3 when they hit the markets as they should at least support faster memory and thus be pretty awesome all around. maybe get a 3700x for now, which would be more than adequate, and get whatever kickass zen 3 comes out and take a few euros' loss on the 3700x for resale.

 

thats about it, pretty solid setup afaik. titanium super flower unit cause efficiency, if you wanna spring for a seasonic that works too. anything in the A tier on the psu tier list would be great, 750-850w is plenty

Budget (including currency): 2000-4000€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly Destiny 2 and RoR2 + whatever I get my hands and friends on ^^

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  144fps 2/4k (not sure what i am going tbh) with no fps drops below the 144 mark - existing parts none cause my GF gets my old Rig. Maybe I get the 1TB 970 out of my old rig - not sure yet.

 

Thinking of 3090+10900k but maybe some Ryzen cause of PCIE 4.0 (then im gonna get a 4.0 m.2 aswell)

64 or better performing 32 gigs of Ram ( dunno what effects fps better )

I have no Idea what board to choose tho thought of a ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-E GAMING but thats not even closes to be a final choice.

Case wise I had my eyes on a Fractal Design Define R6 Blackout ( since my original Plan was a blackout build no need for fancy RGB stuff )

 

If anyone has nice Monitors (2/4 k - 144hz +G/Free sync) that would be cool to.

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the 3090 is gonna be powerful but 144hz 4k without dropping frames is probably out of the question still, not that youd notice with gsync. might be worth waiting to see what zen 3 offers, could be some very good cpus on the way and youd get pcie 4.0. the asus z490s dont support pcie 4.0 that may come with next gen intel but theyre decent boards otherwise. 4x16gb of very expensive b die is technically the best option for framerates but 32 gb of b die would be 99% of the performance for less than half the cost of that sorta thing. for monitors, the lg nano ips variants and similar models from other manufacturers have been very highly regarded and are extremely popular for 144hz 1440p monitors. samsung might have the kinks worked out on their odyssey panels this time around but youd probably wanna wait and see how reviews turn out for this next batch.

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Kill Trident Z RGB - Force MP500 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - Dark moded Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

$4k machine for Destiny 2 which runs on a 1050Ti?

 

The reasoning doesn't fly.  If you want to just buy a 3090 (production card) for gaming... with 64GB of RAM?

 

Are you doing production work at all, since that seems to be what you're wanting to spec out.

 

Or are you just asking because you really don't understand what is needed for a good gaming machine?

Emma : i7 8700K @5.0Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS z370 Gaming 5 - ThermalTake Water 3.0 Ultimate - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200Mhz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB M.2 (RAID 0) - EVGA Supernova 650 P2 - Fractal Design Define R6 - AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz - Mackie CR5BT - Logitech G910, G502, G933 - Cooler Master Universal Graphics Card Holder

 

Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 (stock) - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 8GB 2400Mhz - GeForce 8800GTS 640MB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Dell 19" 4:3

 

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

 

MSI GF62 - i7 7700HQ, 16GB 2400 MHz RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

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Waiting longer wont be a good option for me since I want that Rig running at the 10.11.2020 ( Destiny 2 Beyond Light release date ) - shuold have stated that in my Post, my bad.

So for Monitor more like 2k/144 hz - im totally fine with that. @Fasauceome why just 2 Sticks instead of 4 Sticks of RAM tho? And do you have an Idea how that AMD based build would compare to an Intel based one? 

 

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I honestly don't think there's any point in paying more than double the price of the 3080 for the 3090 if you're just gaming. It's way beyond the point of diminishing returns by the looks of things, but we'll get a clearer idea of how much faster it actually is versus the 3080 when reviews are released.

 

If you want to go with AMD, wait for Zen 3. Going with Zen 2 for just a system strictly targeted for gaming doesn't make much sense, regardless of supporting PCIe 4.0 now.

Speaking of PCIe 4.0, a Gen4 SSD makes sense to use as a scratch disk for example if you're video editing. Otherwise, you won't notice a difference compared to a good 3.0 SSD.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe | macOS Big Sur

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

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@Dedayog Im pretty sure D2 on max settings wont run very smoothly on a 1050ti since it wont run 144fps / 1080p on my 1080 wich shuold be more powerful then a 1050ti ( if i remember correctly :P )

Also I dont want to have to change anything in the next ~2-3 GPU Generations.

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I guess for the Decision of 3080vs3090 we gonna wait for Benchmarks - got it. What about the rest of the System tho ? I guess the rest wont change much if I throw a 3080 or a 3090 in it. Thing is I want to order the parts in October so im defenitly ready on the 10.11. - guess Zen 3 wont be released then. So its Zen2 Vs Intel. + What board and what RAM? 

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id go for zen 2 for 1440p, the advantages that intel has barely show themselves at high resolutions. pcie 4 vs 3 could be a bigger difference there and age better. no need for an x570 for games, just get any mid-high end b550 that you like the looks of and toss in an sx8200 pro or similar. ram, get 2x16gb or 4x8gb at 3600mhz cl16 and thatd be solid. b die if you like overclocking.

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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6 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

id go for zen 2 for 1440p, the advantages that intel has barely show themselves at high resolutions. pcie 4 vs 3 could be a bigger difference there and age better. no need for an x570 for games, just get any mid-high end b550 that you like the looks of and toss in an sx8200 pro or similar. ram, get 2x16gb or 4x8gb at 3600mhz cl16 and thatd be solid. b die if you like overclocking.

Would you mind to make a part list , or specify the RAM / Board more? With my luck I will grab that "mid - high end b550" that is pretty much garbage ^^ And RAM that is know to have Problems... yeah thats my hidden skill -.-  .

" b die if you like overclocking" the...is a b die? And yes I plan on medium OC on that rig.

" pcie 4 vs 3 could be a bigger difference" didnt NVIDIA say it wont be a noticeable difference? Where Intel VS AMD seems to be at least a few FPS difference..

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48 minutes ago, Black3nding said:

Thing is I want to order the parts in October so im defenitly ready on the 10.11. - guess Zen 3 wont be released then. 

Too bad

 

So yeah, your new stuff will be old real quick

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

So yeah, your new stuff will be old real quick

a 3900x+3080 seems like a fine combo for 1440p whether amd's next gen stuff flops or kicks ass, not like those parts will become worse as a result lol

 

38 minutes ago, Black3nding said:

Would you mind to make a part list , or specify the RAM / Board more? With my luck I will grab that "mid - high end b550" that is pretty much garbage ^^ And RAM that is know to have Problems... yeah thats my hidden skill -.-  .

" b die if you like overclocking" the...is a b die? And yes I plan on medium OC on that rig.

" pcie 4 vs 3 could be a bigger difference" didnt NVIDIA say it wont be a noticeable difference? Where Intel VS AMD seems to be at least a few FPS difference..

b550s are pretty good across the board, ill set up a pcpp real quick

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

a 3900x+3080 seems like a fine combo for 1440p whether amd's next gen stuff flops or kicks ass, not like those parts will become worse as a result lol

I wouldnt mind using older stuff (2600k + 1070... way overdue for an upgrade if I bothered), but for 2000-4000€? It's also in Germany, not some poor country that you can only buy a 3600 and 2060 with this big budget.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

Where Intel VS AMD seems to be at least a few FPS difference..

3 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

 pcie 4 vs 3 could be a bigger difference" didnt NVIDIA say it wont be a noticeable difference?

neither should be noticeable, especially at 1440p lol

 

assuming you didnt want an rgb build:

 

a few caveats here. first off, if you want more than 1 m.2 drive then this board goes from best b550 to shit b550 cause it drops the gpu to x8 pcie instead of x16. you stick with 1 m.2 and this becomes a 700 euro mobo with the vrms and overclocking capabilities of the x570 xtreme. super kickass as long as you stick to 1 m.2 or dont care about x8 vs x16 lanes (not meaningful with current hardware but likely to be a difference in the next gen or two).

 

second, you will have to overclock the memory. 4000mhz wont work properly with zen 2 so youll need to let it boot into jedec and then go from there. with the xt you can likely get a high fclk and end up with 3733mhz or 3800mhz which is nice, and these dimms are binned such that you can at least hit 3800c14 which is really fuckin fast lol

 

that being said, id personally get a cheaper zen 2 and slot in a zen 3 when they hit the markets as they should at least support faster memory and thus be pretty awesome all around. maybe get a 3700x for now, which would be more than adequate, and get whatever kickass zen 3 comes out and take a few euros' loss on the 3700x for resale.

 

thats about it, pretty solid setup afaik. titanium super flower unit cause efficiency, if you wanna spring for a seasonic that works too. anything in the A tier on the psu tier list would be great, 750-850w is plenty

topics i need help on:

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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18 minutes ago, Black3nding said:

Gonna go with that and the buy 3700x and resell / use it somewhere else later :)

sounds like a great plan! the vrms handle my buddy's 3950x in his hotbox shitbrick of a case so it should be more than sufficient for anything you can slot in there, tbh the 3700x is more than enough for 1440p but its nice getting faster goodies so i get that, kinda what im planning for my ongoing build as well :P

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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