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The biggest Navi of them all - AMD now selling bicycles

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5 hours ago, soldier_ph said:

That moment when you realise that one of your favourite Tech Companies invested R&D into something that has nothing to do with Tech as we know and love it what so ever.

I kind of doubt they did though.  I think I’ve seen that frame elsewhere.  This looks like more of a marketing thing. 

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My dad is a bike enthusiast and owns a bike shop and has been selling high end bikes of many flavors for close to 10 years. (Although strictly Trek for the past 2.5 years) and I have learned a thing or two from him. 

 

A) There is a reason why tires are black, because any other color will be stained by asphalt and dirt. Any other color will only look good when it is brand new. As soon as you put a mile or two on it, you will notice stains, and you really shouldn't bother removing them afaik. 

 

B) Also like @AndreiArgeanu said, that derailleur looks like shit. Its cheap AF, and derailleurs on mountain bikes need to be much more sturdy than normal roads bikes. From my knowledge and experience, MTB rear derailleurs get beat up a lot and I really really want GN Steve to beat the shit out of it with all the experience he has with mountain bikes. 

 

C) 21 speed means it has a 7x3 gears, 7 in the rear, 3 in the front. 3 is good for mountain bikes, but you will almost always be shifting the rear 7 bc a) front derailleurs have very slow shift times on almost all bikes. Also twist shift gear changers are lame and the handle will just be worn down after a couple years. Trigger shifters are much better, aren't hard to learn, and won't break down. 

 

D) Mountain bikes frames need to be sturdy and handle extreme velocity changes (actually acceleration changes, G forces) (jumps, landing, losing control and hitting something, accidents are much more common on mountain bikes, but the ride is really fun and makes up for it). For $300-350 I expect this frame to fall apart within an hour or two of riding purpose-built mountain bike trails. 

 

I am extremely excited to see gamers nexus benchmark this and beat this shit out of it. Also $350+ wheels are more common than you think amon enthusiasts. I have seen some of the best road bike rims (as in meant for races) go for $2000+, used. 

 

Imma send the images to my dad and see if he can figure out what the rebrand is. But I will do that later, after I see GN steve take the stickers off to reveal the brand. 

Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

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17 minutes ago, StDragon said:

What, no RGB!? 

 

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*points at reflectors*

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20 hours ago, williamcll said:

And from the specs I think most bike experts would rate this ride pretty poorly as well.

Yep.  It is Walmart level.  Not even the upper end wally world stuff with disc brakes.

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1 hour ago, justpoet said:

Yep.  It is Walmart level.  Not even the upper end wally world stuff with disc brakes.

The best way not to judge is by ridding in the dark. AMD baby!

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5 hours ago, Nathanpete said:

Also twist shift gear changers are lame and the handle will just be worn down after a couple years. Trigger shifters are much better, aren't hard to learn, and won't break down. 

Out of interest, what is the extra cost associated with a trigger shift?

 

I also personally hate twist shifts, but I can't imagine bike manufacturers would use them just to spite me.. surely there's s cost difference as well?

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12 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

...with a 21 gear Shimano? *doubt*. (maybe I'm misunderstanding something but that's what it says "all models" ...)

 

 

Just because it is Shimano it doesn't mean it is good. These days you'll only find 21 speed groupset on most basic MTBs. It's basically $15 rear derailleur paired with $10 twist shifters, which are not good.

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13 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

...with a 21 gear Shimano? *doubt*

Trust me, I had a bike like that when I was like 10. Their tourney derailleurs, are the cheapest most entry level stuff shimano has. And the derailleurs on that bike are something under it, that Shimano doesn't even acknowledges the existence of on their website. Don't get me wrong, the bike works, but that's all I can say about it.

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4 hours ago, pythonmegapixel said:

Out of interest, what is the extra cost associated with a trigger shift?

 

I also personally hate twist shifts, but I can't imagine bike manufacturers would use them just to spite me.. surely there's s cost difference as well?

No idea. I haven't seen a twist shifter outside of kids bikes in years where I'm from. All I know is that they last longer. But ofc they must cost more than twist shifters or else they would be on this bike instead. 

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3 hours ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

Trust me, I had a bike like that when I was like 10. Their tourney derailleurs, are the cheapest most entry level stuff shimano has. And the derailleurs on that bike are something under it, that Shimano doesn't even acknowledges the existence of on their website. Don't get me wrong, the bike works, but that's all I can say about it.

 

4 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Just because it is Shimano it doesn't mean it is good. These days you'll only find 21 speed groupset on most basic MTBs. It's basically $15 rear derailleur paired with $10 twist shifters, which are not good.

Uh, ok that makes sense I guess. I knew they make cheap gear shifts but I didn't think they make trash gear shifts too. 😃

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Basically a big box store bike. or a BSO... bike-shaped-object.

it is like they want to be the inferior option to Intel. Kind of the opposite of what they do with their current CPUs. 

 

That marketing person should get fired. What they should have done if they feel like selling bikes, sell a really good $3K threadripper bike, not this Walmart edition.

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20 hours ago, soldier_ph said:

That moment when you realise that one of your favourite Tech Companies invested R&D into something that has nothing to do with Tech as we know and love it what so ever.

They didn't invest anything.

This is your typical basic mountain bike that you can get anywhere with an AMD logo on it.

Pro bikes can cost easily over 1k. This is only $300.

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Both bikes are sold out so someone have been buying these. Poor souls. Probably more of a collector's item than for actual use - but even then, these things are fugly and just plainly looks 'cheap'.

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If it's such a shitty bike, why didn't they put "Intel Integrated Graphics" on the sides instead? Woulda sold like hot cakes on a cold winters eve.

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On 9/7/2020 at 6:31 AM, dizmo said:

Aaaaaaand this is why AMD is in such a poor financial position, among many other missteps. There's absolutely no reason to do this. I mean, I find most of their merch lineup pretty stupid, but this definitely takes the cake. Not only that, it's an incredibly bad product for the price.

I'm no expert but I really don't think AMD expects to make any profit out of these bikes and it probably doesn't have any impact on their financial report 😂

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1 hour ago, IAmAndre said:

I'm no expert but I really don't think AMD expects to make any profit out of these bikes and it probably doesn't have any impact on their financial report 😂

It's not even so much about profit as it is loss and brand degradation. It costs far more than the simple acquisition costs, and when the people realize how poor of a product it is they'll think less of the company. 

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13 minutes ago, dizmo said:

It's not even so much about profit as it is loss and brand degradation. It costs far more than the simple acquisition costs, and when the people realize how poor of a product it is they'll think less of the company. 

How many people will buy it for the "brand degradation" to be significant?  The people who are genuinely interested in getting a bike won't wait until AMD releases one and the people who like AMD products are only interested in their hardware. The only people who might be buy these are hardcore fans who won't really care if it sucks.

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found it..its a titan pathfinder elite
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TITAN-Pathfinder-Elite-Dual-Suspension-Mountain-Bike-Unisex-21-speeds-18-Inch-Frame/536155858

 

 

shit just realized the ball breaker bar area is different sized...but the rest matches up

i bet its from titan but with the subtle changes, i dont see any other bike close to amds config

 

 

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CLEARLY they're pandering to GN Steve with this product launch.

 

 

Oh shit, we might be gifted with a review from techjesus himself!

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Rumors has it that AMD got so annoyed at people blaming them for bad drivers, that they created a product where their customers are the bad drivers.

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On 9/8/2020 at 8:03 AM, HerrKaLeu said:

Basically a big box store bike. or a BSO... bike-shaped-object.

it is like they want to be the inferior option to Intel. Kind of the opposite of what they do with their current CPUs. 

 

That marketing person should get fired. What they should have done if they feel like selling bikes, sell a really good $3K threadripper bike, not this Walmart edition.

I'd buy an actually good electric mountain bike with AMD branding if the price wasn't stupid compared to other good bikes.

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  • 1 month later...

I am not even remotely surprised that it is crap.  To be honest, I found Steve's review a little obnoxious because he was taking it so seriously (at least as far as I watched.)  Anyone who is used to good bikes is going to know before even ordering the thing that is is a pile of junk, so I am not sure why he even bothered buying one.  But hey, they ARE completely sold out :D

I think it was a silly idea, but they are trying, right?  I will admit, that I am tempted to order that T with the 486 era AMD logo on it. It's pretty sweet.

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1 hour ago, Warin said:

Anyone who is used to good bikes is going to know before even ordering the thing that is is a pile of junk, so I am not sure why he even bothered buying one

Because AMD was stupid enough to do this, and not do a high end bike, and there isn't any good reason to not give it the same treatment as any other product review. It's good to know exactly why it's bad, how it can fail etc.

 

But if you have been watching Steve long enough you can tell this is nothing but a complete piss take anyway.

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