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Follow on question about Seasonic M12II evo 620w

With the problems this PSU has, how likely is it to take the system or parts of the system with it if it fails by putting a part that requires too much power in?

 

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Seasonic M12II EVO is a solid PSU. Why are you concerned about it failing?

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18 minutes ago, jimmyjimjim said:

With the problems this PSU has, how likely is it to take the system or parts of the system with it if it fails by putting a part that requires too much power in?

 

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Jimmy Jim

 

 

 

Doesn't have OCP or OTP so the chance is VERY HIGH it could cause serious issues...

 

In an extreme case it could start a fire if you overload it...

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17 minutes ago, jimmyjimjim said:

how likely is it to take the system or parts of the system with it if it fails by putting a part that requires too much power in?

PSUs don't usually fail catastrophically just because your computer pulls more power than it is rated for. That's what the OPP (Over-power protecton) is for. It simply shuts down the PSU.

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9 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

Doesn't have OCP or OTP so the chance is VERY HIGH it could cause serious issues...

 

In an extreme case it could start a fire if you overload it...

It was a very good psu back in the day but was just produced too long. I don't see it doing any catastrophic failure if it's not overstressed.

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4 minutes ago, jaslion said:

It was a very good psu back in the day but was just produced too long. I don't see it doing any catastrophic failure if it's not overstressed.

 

Exactly... As long as it was used correctly.... I had a few myself...

 

Not something I would hook up to a new system today...

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9 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

Exactly... As long as it was used correctly.... I had a few myself...

 

Not something I would hook up to a new system today...

Even if it's new? I'm kinda worried because my build that's been running since 2 years ago has been running this.

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6 minutes ago, Fatih19 said:

Even if it's new? I'm kinda worried because my build that's been running since 2 years ago has been running this.

If your profile is correct, you are running a RX 580 and a 2700X? You should be fine for the most part, but if you are going to upgrade, I would get a better PSU first.

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2 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

If your profile is correct, you are running a RX 580 and a 2700X? You should be fine for the most part, but if you are going to upgrade, I would get a better PSU first.

Ah alright, cool. Thanks for the advice.

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2 hours ago, jimmyjimjim said:

With the problems this PSU has, how likely is it to take the system or parts of the system with it if it fails by putting a part that requires too much power in?

 

2 hours ago, Fatih19 said:

Seasonic M12II EVO is a solid PSU. Why are you concerned about it failing?

 

1 hour ago, OrionFOTL said:

PSUs don't usually fail catastrophically just because your computer pulls more power than it is rated for. That's what the OPP (Over-power protecton) is for. It simply shuts down the PSU.

If you load the 12V a bit too far, which happens often, you'll get a uncontrolled 5V rail, and it'll start going out of ATX spec. Symptoms include shorter lifespan of components, burnt cables, and dead components, the latter two less common. They can also go the other way, if only the 3.3V and 5V rails are loaded up.

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Your question pertains to the same power supply, and its capability as the other thread. It would have been best to keep them in the same thread, so they know what you are looking to do with this PSU and that is to power a 3070.

 

The S/M12II-B / Evo 380/420/520/620 models are group-regulated. These designs are inherently yield worse voltage regulation across it load range than it DC-DC / independent regulated counterparts, especially in crossload scenarios, as the load one rail can influence the voltage of another (in this case, the 12V and 5V). If you are planning to get a modern, high-end GPU for $500 or so, I think you should consider spending a little more for a modern, high-end PSU as well, rather than continue to use an outdated, budget unit

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48 minutes ago, quan289 said:

Your question pertains to the same power supply, and its capability as the other thread. It would have been best to keep them in the same thread, so they know what you are looking to do with this PSU and that is to power a 3070.

 

The S/M12II-B / Evo 380/420/520/620 models are group-regulated. These designs are inherently yield worse voltage regulation across it load range than it DC-DC / independent regulated counterparts, especially in crossload scenarios, as the load one rail can influence the voltage of another (in this case, the 12V and 5V). If you are planning to get a modern, high-end GPU for $500 or so, I think you should consider spending a little more for a modern, high-end PSU as well, rather than continue to use an outdated, budget unit

Thanks for your reply, you’re right my bad I’m  new to forums altogether lol


That all seems logical, I think that’s what I’ll end up doing when I upgrade 

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