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Nvidia 30 Series unveiled - RTX 3080 2x faster than 2080 for $699

7 hours ago, Kilrah said:

The 8GB on my cards has been fully used by games for quite a while, so one could reasonably suspect that 10GB might be tight for titles coming out 2-3 years from now.

 

I would suspect they'd have liked to put more but it's a question of price and availability that prevents it. 

Some games will fill the VRAM regardless if they need to or not. So that's not a very good way to measure it.

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8 hours ago, Kilrah said:

The 8GB on my cards has been fully used by games for quite a while, so one could reasonably suspect that 10GB might be tight for titles coming out 2-3 years from now.

 

I would suspect they'd have liked to put more but it's a question of price and availability that prevents it. 

6 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I think Nvidia has more info on VRAM usage than we do. 

Remember, you can't just look at VRAM usage, see that it's at 8GB and then assume you need 8GB.

The more VRAM you got, the more is used/flushed less frequently. The less you have, the smarter the OS handles its use. 

 

Your GPU might have filled 8GB of VRAM with data, but it might only need 4GB at any given time and the other 4GB is only filled because "I needed those 4GB before and flushing the VRAM is unnecessary if I am not running short". 

In such a scenario, reducing the VRAM from 8GB to 4GB might only result in a very minor performance decrease, if any. 

 

Looking at VRAM usage is pretty meaningless. In order to determine how much VRAM is actually necessary you need to do rather deep analysis of what is stored in the VRAM, not just how much is stored in it. 

Raytracing should also reduce the VRAM requirements significantly, due to not needing light or shadow maps. Both of which like to hog VRAM.

 

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Some games will fill the VRAM regardless if they need to or not. So that's not a very good way to measure it.

Indeed. Poor optimizations shouldn't push hardware changes.

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Did the gtx 1070 go down in value as well since the event? I bought my fe for $240 a year ago

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What's the opinion of the power-connector placement of the FE cards? I was aiming to get one of those but now when I realized it's in the middle of the card I'm leaning more towards an ASUS or something...

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9 minutes ago, NE0XY said:

What's the opinion of the power-connector placement of the FE cards? I was aiming to get one of those but now when I realized it's in the middle of the card I'm leaning more towards an ASUS or something...

It's not quite the middle, but it's less than the 2/3rds mark. It's actually at the end of the PCB, so it physically can't be placed any further along the card, and since they're angled, it shouldn't be as much of an issue.

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24 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

It's not quite the middle, but it's less than the 2/3rds mark. It's actually at the end of the PCB, so it physically can't be placed any further along the card, and since they're angled, it shouldn't be as much of an issue.

If I understand you correctly, the final third of the card after the powerconnectors are just the cooling? 

That would be great news because I'm going to watercool the card, so if it's at the end of the PCB, when watercooled it'll probably be at the end instead 2/3s in?

If that makes sense? 

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2 minutes ago, NE0XY said:

If I understand you correctly, the final third of the card after the powerconnectors are just the cooling? 

That would be great news because I'm going to watercool the card, so if it's at the end of the PCB, when watercooled it'll probably be at the end instead 2/3s in?

If that makes sense? 

1/3rd in. 2/3rds the length of the card. Basically, the end fan is off the end of the PCB, so it can blow the air straight through the cooler. Watercooling should result in an incredibly compact card.

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Yep, there are photos of the PCB around, it's around the size of an ITX single fan card, everything after that is just cooler.

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Dayum, 

Hopefully not too small, I have too much space in my CaseLabs case... 

I hope more details regarding waterblocks etc are revealed before launch so I can decide which card to get. 

Thanks

 

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