Ryzen 4000 IPC boost could be around 20%

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Summary

  Some rurmors have been circulating, and a leaker called "Ice Universe" is saying that AMD has stated that there could be a 15-17% IPC boost for Ryzen 4000 from Ryzen 3000. The leaker seems to have a solid track record for smartphone leaks, according to wcctech, but little for other platforms. Internal tests show it beats Intel.

 

Quotes

Quote

"Apparently, AMD is claiming around 15% to 17% better IPC (instructions per clock) with its next-gen CPUs"

 

My Thoughts

I'll like to see how this will play out for the gaming side. If this will beat Rocket Lake before it comes out, there might be a chance that AMD might come out on top for gaming, on low-, mid-, and even high-end for once. If true, this will certify AMD's place on top for multi-core/thread applications.

 

Sources

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-4000-zen-3-vermeer-7nm-desktop-cpus-20-percent-ipc-rumor/

 

https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-desktop-cpus-could-blow-intel-away-with-nearing-20-ipc-boos

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/chiakokhua/status/1261122002540060673/photo/2

 

EDIT:Yes I know this is a leak from may, but I didn't see anything on the fourm about it so I decided to convey the leak/rurmors.

[zeusthemoose]

If this is true, Intel is doomed (unless they also have a similar performance boost coming soon)

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, zeusthemoose said:

 

If this is true, Intel is doomed (unless they also have a similar performance boost coming soon)

 

Yeah. All hail Lord AMD.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

a leaker called "Ice Universe" is saying that AMD has stated that there could be a 15-17% IPC boost

could have sworn this was an official statement, not a leak

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

could have sworn this was an official statement, not a leak

Here. This was an internal thing according to the leak. https://mobile.twitter.com/chiakokhua/status/1261122002540060673/photo/2

[GDRRiley]

15-20% with better clocks then 300 chips. dam this sounds like intel about to get roasted hard

[Deslumo]

4 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

Yeah. All hail Lord AMD.

Yeah, they are doing great now, but what will be the real test is if they are able to continue to make large improvements in the absence of competition. If they can, then they are the true lord. Intel decided to do the opposite and stop innovation for years, and AMD has brought the golden-age of innovation back. May AMD's prices be fair and their improvements be large so that everyone can get the powerful processor they deserve.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

2 minutes ago, Deslumo said:

Yeah, they are doing great now, but what will be the real test is if they are able to continue to make large improvements in the absence of competition. If they can, then they are the true lord. Intel decided to do the opposite and stop innovation for years, and AMD has brought the golden-age of innovation back. May AMD's prices be fair and their improvements be large so that everyone can get the powerful processor they deserve.

You think Han Solo has the perfect line for AMD. "Great kid, don't get cocky."

[Deslumo]

1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

man, intel better have CPUs on their own 7nm stuff ready by next year (as far as they've forecasted). they're totally sitting ducks right now

yeah, there was something someone said about how Intel should accept defeat for a few years and hopefully come back with something competitive later.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

3 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

man, intel better have CPUs on their own 7nm stuff ready by next year (as far as they've forecasted). they're totally sitting ducks right now

Yeah. My build planned this fall went from probably a 3000 to definetly a 4000. Intel can't stop the AMD. Intel may lose their only advantage. GAMING.

[FeIIex]

What a time to be a builder, cannot wait

[dizmo]

I'll believe it when I see it. AMD has a history of over-hyping their products.

Intel won't be crushed by this. AMD still has a very, very very long way to go.

 

But hating on Intel is the thing to do so everyone aboard the hate train! Yeahhh AMD! /s

[GDRRiley]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'll believe it when I see it. AMD has a history of over-hyping their products.

Intel won't be crushed by this. AMD still has a very, very very long way to go.

they haven't when it comes to IPC

intel's already being matched and the fall launches don't look to be good for them. AMD has a way to go on launch stability sure but given the final silicon (unless they need to update it) looks to be in testing now a late 2020 launch should be stable.

[Techstorm970]

My next laptop will have Ryzen Renoir and an NVIDIA.  I'm very excited for the coming year in PC tech!

 

(I would include mobile Radeon but the RX 5600m was depressing...)

[Deslumo]

7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'll believe it when I see it. AMD has a history of over-hyping their products.

Intel won't be crushed by this. AMD still has a very, very very long way to go.

 

But hating on Intel is the thing to do so everyone aboard the hate train! Yeahhh AMD! /s

even despite the long way to go, i feel they are definitely going the right way. 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Though id like to see what AMD has to pull out of their hats for ray tracing, and if they can put a blip in NVIDIA profits.

[Deslumo]

5 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

Though id like to see what AMD has to pull out of their hats for ray tracing, and if they can put a blip in NVIDIA profits.

yeah, they have defeated intel (mostly for now) but nvidia is still more robust in maturity and features.

 

edit: spelling

[Dylanc1500]

The important question is, which instruction/s?

[Enderman]

53 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

If this is true, Intel is doomed (unless they also have a similar performance boost coming soon)

They literally just released their 10000 series CPUs, so obviously not...

[Helpful Tech Witch]

6 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

The important question is, which instruction/s?

Hopefully the functional ones

[Helpful Tech Witch]

8 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

The important question is, which instruction/s?

honestly id hope for gaming being better. topple Intel off the gaming pedestal.

[Dylanc1500]

4 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

Hopefully the functional ones

Well all of them are functional in some manner.

 

1 minute ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

honestly id hope for gaming being better. topple Intel off the gaming pedestal.

There are enough "depends" to that to supply a nursing home.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, Dylanc1500 said:

Well all of them are functional in some manner.

true. the ones that don't work do very well at not working.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

BTW I know this is from may but I didn't see anything on the fourm so I thought I'd post about it.

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, comander said:

This looks to be about on par with Ice Lake in terms of IPC. 

Tiger Lake/Rocket Lake will be interesting. I'm expecting a bit of a boost over ICL, but I expect TGL/RKL to NOT clock as high as CML. 

Also at this point I'm sick of lake codenames. Most of these should be the EXACT SAME NAME. 

SKL = KBL = CML in terms of IPC and while there are tweaks, I've seen PIII stepping with bigger IPC lifts and core changes. 

This is over 15% above Ice Lake. Currently, Renoir mobile leads Ice Lake by 7% as tested by notebookcheck (in terms of IPC).

 

As for the l am, 15% was the original targe and from what I'm hearing, AMD have reached it and are aiming higher for final release. Don't expect higher clocks than Zen 2 though. It'll be a pure IPC uplift