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Nope. 
 

Dead platform, shit motherboard, shit psu, shit ram. 
 

Sorry to be so harsh but you’ll get what you pay for. 

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5 minutes ago, Pinkeypierules said:

damn sorry wrong photo

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One thing's for certain... it's very 'blinged up'.

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Did you test boot it, before you built in into the case?

WHY NOT...?!

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3 minutes ago, gloop said:

Nope. 
 

Dead platform, shit motherboard, shit psu, shit ram. 
 

Sorry to be so harsh but you’ll get what you pay for. 

I've seen worse systems for 'a thousand first-world currency' - just look at some of the eBay 'gaming machines' with 2nd/3rd Gen Intel CPU's...

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Just now, Eighjan said:

I've seen worse systems for 'a thousand first-world currency' - just look at some of the eBay 'gaming machines' with 2nd/3rd Gen Intel CPU's...

Yeah, those always piss me off. Costs $300 to build, add some RGB and then market it as a ‘fOrTNitE’ gaming pc. 

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Considering you can get something like this for $1000, nah.

That and most other prebuilts are bad for the same reasons that @gloop mentioned - cheaping out on the motherboard, memory and PSU is the easiest way to save money, especially since they're not as noticeable to an unexperienced end user, at least at first.

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I know building a pc may seem like more work than some of us want to do or spooky because what if you break it, I would strongly encourage going for a build tho. With all the guides out there it is easier than ever and worth the peace of mind knowing that the parts you got are all of good quality and have good brands/warranties to back them up. I came up with this parts list and anything could really be changed to better suit whatever your specific needs are, part of the beauty of building it yourself is you decide what you need rather than the system integrator. 

 

If you have any specific questions about why I chose specific parts I would be happy to answer any, or if there are specific things you will use it for other than gaming I could adjust something to account for that. The system you posted isn't bad for $1000 dollars but with most pre-builts you get a mystery motherboard and ram that can sometimes be ok and other times be kinda trash. Same goes for the power supply which I really don't like as they can limit your potential to upgrade in the future and psu is usually something you can keep for multiple builds. Building yourself just ensures you know exactly what you are getting where with prebuilts you really only know the amount of ram and storage but not the brand or speeds, and then whatever cheap locked cpu is cheapest that checks a box that says i7 or i5 because that is all people look at. You can also get a much better graphics card at this price point which would improve your gaming experience the most out of anything. 

 

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ok will keep that in mind but whats  a good site to buy a prebulit from im a kinda lazy not gonna lie 

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2 minutes ago, Pinkeypierules said:

ok will keep that in mind but whats  a good site to buy a prebulit from im a kinda lazy not gonna lie 

none they all suck or charge way to much.

its not hard to build one

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37 minutes ago, thedangerine said:

I know building a pc may seem like more work than some of us want to do or spooky because what if you break it, I would strongly encourage going for a build tho. With all the guides out there it is easier than ever and worth the peace of mind knowing that the parts you got are all of good quality and have good brands/warranties to back them up. I came up with this parts list and anything could really be changed to better suit whatever your specific needs are, part of the beauty of building it yourself is you decide what you need rather than the system integrator. 

 

If you have any specific questions about why I chose specific parts I would be happy to answer any, or if there are specific things you will use it for other than gaming I could adjust something to account for that. The system you posted isn't bad for $1000 dollars but with most pre-builts you get a mystery motherboard and ram that can sometimes be ok and other times be kinda trash. Same goes for the power supply which I really don't like as they can limit your potential to upgrade in the future and psu is usually something you can keep for multiple builds. Building yourself just ensures you know exactly what you are getting where with prebuilts you really only know the amount of ram and storage but not the brand or speeds, and then whatever cheap locked cpu is cheapest that checks a box that says i7 or i5 because that is all people look at. You can also get a much better graphics card at this price point which would improve your gaming experience the most out of anything. 

 

TL;DR

Building yourself is pretty easy with modern hardware and guides, can be a lot of fun, gives you the power to choose your parts for your needs, flexibility, and assures you get quality components from well known trusted brands with good warranties. Let me know if you have any questions on why I chose certain parts and I will gladly respond, Have a safe and great day :)

If you don't want to build this, you can just go to a builder website and configure it with these parts.

 

You will pay about $200 - $300 more for the PC

 

For example, I went to Cyber PC and this exact build was $1,387 (different case - but meh)

 

That was with exactly the same components, except the RAM, you can pick 3200mhz, but you can't say it will be CAS 16.  You won't notice the difference between CL18 and CL16 so I wouldn't worry about that.


However, I would shop around.

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It takes literally 45 minutes to build a PC.

There's maybe at most 10 pieces.

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1 minute ago, Dravinian said:

If you don't want to build this, you can just go to a builder website and configure it with these parts.

 

You will pay about $200 - $300 more for the PC

 

For example, I went to Cyber PC and this exact build was $1,387 (different case - but meh)

 

That was with exactly the same components, except the RAM, you can pick 3200mhz, but you can't say it will be CAS 16.  You won't notice the difference between CL18 and CL16 so I wouldn't worry about that.


However, I would shop around.

The thing to look out for is the 'crap' they try and sell you, don't be tempted, just stick the parts you have been told are good (not necessarily these ones, go ask about it in the Building and Planning part of teh forum you will get more feedback.  READ THE STICKY POST!!!

 

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5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

It takes literally 45 minutes to build a PC.

There's maybe at most 10 pieces.

That is not really the only issue though.

 

What if something breaks - worse, what if you break something putting it together?

 

Don't act like that is impossible, Jayztwocentz put up a video today, admittedly he was just repairing his daughter's laptop, but he broke the case...How many times has Linus dropped stuff?  Didn't Linus drop a $10,000 CPU once?

 

I have said before, buying a machine built by a company off the shelf?

 

Worst idea in the world, you might as well go into your garden and just burn your money.


Having a company build a machine you configured?


The more you spend, the more this makes sense.


Building yourself?


Sure, if it is low value, not important if something breaks.

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1 minute ago, Dravinian said:

Sure, if it is low value, not important if something breaks.

I've worked on 20 systems and have only broken ram by getting it wet.

just build it

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3 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

I've worked on 20 systems and have only broken ram by getting it wet.

just build it

Yeah, and not like you gained any experience or knowledge working on the 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd etc. etc. etc.


The only system that is of relevance, is the first, and your not breaking the first system you built, is a sample size of one.

 

And for every anecdote of people saying "I built my first system just fine" there are posts on this forum alone saying "My pc won't work, help me" let alone any other forum on the internet.

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7 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

That is not really the only issue though.

 

What if something breaks - worse, what if you break something putting it together?

 

Don't act like that is impossible, Jayztwocentz put up a video today, admittedly he was just repairing his daughter's laptop, but he broke the case...How many times has Linus dropped stuff?  Didn't Linus drop a $10,000 CPU once?

 

I have said before, buying a machine built by a company off the shelf?

 

Worst idea in the world, you might as well go into your garden and just burn your money.


Having a company build a machine you configured?


The more you spend, the more this makes sense.


Building yourself?


Sure, if it is low value, not important if something breaks.

Building a computer is not difficult. LEGO sets are more complicated, and they're built by children.

My ex, who had no interest in computers, figured it out most of it with little trouble.

The issues you raise are easily fixed by being careful.

 

Actually, the more you spend, the less it makes sense. You get better warranties on the parts outside of the third party company.

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3 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

Yeah, and not like you gained any experience or knowledge working on the 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd etc. etc. etc

I've also been there as 6 other people built their first systems and with very little guidance with me basically acting like watching a video they all did fine.

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Just now, dizmo said:

Building a computer is not difficult. LEGO sets are more complicated, and they're built by children.

My ex, who had no interest in computers, figured it out most of it with little trouble.

The issues you raise are easily fixed by being careful.

 

Actually, the more you spend, the less it makes sense. You get better warranties on the parts outside of the third party company.

What you find difficult and what other people find difficult are two very different things.

 

I can play classical music on the guitar, it's easy.

 

Won't be easy for everyone.  What your background is, what you have experience of, will all go to how 'easy' something is, and how easy you will find it.


I hate tech forums for this snobbery.

 

He has already said he doesn't want to build it, why don't you try and help him without foisting your world view on him.

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Just now, GDRRiley said:

I've also been there as 6 other people built their first systems and with very little guidance with me basically acting like watching a video they all did fine.

Why would they ask you to do that, why would you agree to do it, if it came with no risk.

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5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Actually, the more you spend, the less it makes sense. You get better warranties on the parts outside of the third party company.

Whether the warranties are better isn't the point, these machines will come as a whole with years of warranties.  That Cyber Power PC comes with 3 years.

 

The 'build' cost is a constant.  It costs between $200-$300 for a company to build your PC.


Doesn't matter if the overall cost is $1,000 or $6,000.  And when you are spending $6,000 the $250 build cost is 4% of the cost.


When you spend $1,000 is 25% of the cost.


So spending more actually reduces the percentage cost of the build in comparison to the amount you are spending.

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Ok im gonna build but i need to find a case that fits  my mother board

MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard

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2 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

Considering you can get something like this for $1000, nah.

That and most other prebuilts are bad for the same reasons that @gloop mentioned - cheaping out on the motherboard, memory and PSU is the easiest way to save money, especially since they're not as noticeable to an unexperienced end user, at least at first.

not enough rgb bro

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1 hour ago, Dravinian said:

Why would they ask you to do that, why would you agree to do it, if it came with no risk.

well because all preferred me there over watching a video and following along.

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valid question do i just get windows 10 home for free from microsoft 

or pay full price

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