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Budget (including currency): 2500+

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: General Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

 Old pc: HP p7-1026

 

New build list:

 

Fractal Meshify S2 white

I7-10700k

Asus Strix Z490 E-Gaming

32Gb Vengence Pro RGB 3200mhz C16

MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio

Thermaltake Toughpower 80+ Gold

Nzxt Z63 aio

1Tb Samsung Evo M.2 2280 (will expand later I know its kinda small)

 

I want it to be able to play games at 1440p at 60+ fps comfortably for the next few years.

 

Monitor: BenQ Ex2780q

Keyboard: S.S. Apex 7

 

How'd I do? I'm definitely a casual at pc building. Also it seems like a lot of things are priced higher than they were at the beginning of year. Am I missing anything? Recommendations? Initially I was going to go with i9 but they are scarce atm and I didn't want to spend the extra $ going to Ryzen 3900 etc.

 

 

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looks good but I would go with amd as of right now they have  the same amount of power for less. Also 32gb for general gaming is too much you should be more than enough with 16gb. But other than that they build looks solid. 

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I don't know if you're in a hurry but 4th gen Ryzen and the new Nvidia GPUs are coming out in a few months.

 

So I would wait a little bit before spending 2500$, it kinda sucks to build a high end PC and in a couple of months there's something better on the market for the same (or lower) price. 

 

I would wait for the Ryzen 7 4700X and the RTX 3070 or 3080. 

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12 minutes ago, Hypercat said:

Budget (including currency): 2500+

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: General Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

 Old pc: HP p7-1026

 

New build list:

 

Fractal Meshify S2 white

I7-10700k

Asus Strix Z490 E-Gaming

32Gb Vengence Pro RGB 3200mhz C16

MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio

Thermaltake Toughpower 80+ Gold

Nzxt Z63 aio

1Tb Samsung Evo M.2 2280 (will expand later I know its kinda small)

 

I want it to be able to play games at 1440p at 60+ fps comfortably for the next few years.

 

Monitor: BenQ Ex2780q

Keyboard: S.S. Apex 7

 

How'd I do? I'm definitely a casual at pc building. Also it seems like a lot of things are priced higher than they were at the beginning of year. Am I missing anything? Recommendations? Initially I was going to go with i9 but they are scarce atm and I didn't want to spend the extra $ going to Ryzen 3900 etc.

 

 

any reason as to why you have selected intel and z490? is RGB necessary?

 

here is a build list that doesnt satisfy those two conditions:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rv4Ktp

 

do note that the prices for the AIO and Motherboard arent listed, but theyll fit in your budget

 

6 minutes ago, Viper9 said:

I don't know if you're in a hurry but 4th gen Ryzen and the new Nvidia GPUs are coming out in a few months.

 

So I would wait a little bit before spending 2500$, it kinda sucks to build a high end PC and in a couple of months there's something better on the market for the same (or lower) price. 

 

I would wait for the Ryzen 7 4700X and the RTX 3070 or 3080. 

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9 minutes ago, Viper9 said:

I don't know if you're in a hurry but 4th gen Ryzen and the new Nvidia GPUs are coming out in a few months.

 

So I would wait a little bit before spending 2500$, it kinda sucks to build a high end PC and in a couple of months there's something better on the market for the same (or lower) price. 

 

I would wait for the Ryzen 7 4700X and the RTX 3070 or 3080. 

Would totally suck, if that's the actual case.  If you truly believe that AMD will magically leapfrog Intel for gaming (rather than inching a bit closer as they have been doing for years) then yes wait.

 

If you want the best gaming chips then I'd say he's right where he needs to be.  

 

Look, I am all for AMD.  Had them in the past, currently have one, and will most likely have them in the future.  But please stop the whole "AMD is better for less!!!!".  It's not.  It's close.  But close to the best isn't being the best.

 

You want a good value, look at the 3700X for the gaming PC.  3900X is overkill, it's a production chip not a gaming chip.  If you want Intel gaming, the 10600K is the gaming chip of choice it seems.

 

32GB RAM... *looks at own sig at the $300 of RAM bought at near-peak*... at RAM prices now, I'd go 32GB out of the gate.  Modded games need it, and it's cheap.  

 

1TB SSD isn't small, but grab a 3-4TB HDD for mass storage if you want.  Tho I would still recommend a SSD only PC build for your pricepoint.

 

You should be able to squeeze a 2080 Super in there, but if you are including the monitor, mouse, keyboard, headset/speakers... then maybe not.  

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

If you truly believe that AMD will magically leapfrog Intel for gaming (rather than inching a bit closer as they have been doing for years) then yes wait.

Looking at the 4000 series is out for laptops the leap is quite big...

... but I'm no expert

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Thanks for all the responses! I figured I'd just pull the trigger since they've been talking about new chips for a while. The best way for those chips to release is for me to buy something now lol. (Always has worked in the past.) Worst case I can always upgrade next year after they work all the bugs out of the new stuff. The graphics card could be improved but I didn't see a huge improvement in performance until you get into 2080 ti which is a lot more $, that and again the newer cards will be out and proven next year so I may upgrade then.

The ram is a touch excessive but I figure "overhead" for now. /shrug

PSU I got a good deal on otherwise I probably would have gone Corsair.

I didn't see much improvement for "gaming" between the ryzen and intel. She doesn't do any work that would require the extra core bonus of the ryzen. Also the ryzen seemed more expensive flagship for flagship at least at this moment.

Just explaining why I chose what I did. Please correct me if I'm way off base. Thanks again.

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11 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Looking at the 4000 series is out for laptops the leap is quite big...

That's because the Laptop Ryzen 3000 was acutally Ryzen 2000 Desktop. And the jump from Desktop 2000 to 3000 is also very high.

Laptop Ryzen 4000 = Desktop Ryzen 3000. Confusing mess...

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Current Specs:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - GPU: PNY RTX 3080 XLR8 Epic-X - RAM: 16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz - PSU: Corsair RMx 850W - Storage: 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 2,5" (OS) + 2 TB Samsung Evo 860 M.2 (Mass storage) - Cooling: EK & Alphacool custom loop - Case: CoolerMaster H500 - Fans: 6x Arctic P12 PWM PST - AMP/DAC: Creative Sound BlasterX G6 - Fan Controller: Corsair Commander Pro - OS: Windows 10 Pro - Monitors: 2x LG 27GN850-B HDR-Gaming-TV: LG C9 OLED 55" - Mouse: Logitech G Pro wireless + Powerplay - Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, Corsair K63 Wireless + Lapboard - Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT990 Edition 600 Ohm - Microphone: Antlion ModMic

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20 minutes ago, Hypercat said:

Thanks for all the responses! I figured I'd just pull the trigger since they've been talking about new chips for a while. The best way for those chips to release is for me to buy something now lol. (Always has worked in the past.) Worst case I can always upgrade next year after they work all the bugs out of the new stuff. The graphics card could be improved but I didn't see a huge improvement in performance until you get into 2080 ti which is a lot more $, that and again the newer cards will be out and proven next year so I may upgrade then.

The ram is a touch excessive but I figure "overhead" for now. /shrug

PSU I got a good deal on otherwise I probably would have gone Corsair.

I didn't see much improvement for "gaming" between the ryzen and intel. She doesn't do any work that would require the extra core bonus of the ryzen. Also the ryzen seemed more expensive flagship for flagship at least at this moment.

Just explaining why I chose what I did. Please correct me if I'm way off base. Thanks again.

Saved a bit with the CPU, as the 10600K will have the same gaming performance for the most part. The extra cores of the 10700K will not be any benefit when only gaming. The performance of the 10600K is equal to the 9900k if overclocked to 5GHz all-core, which is pretty much guaranteed achieveable. Maybe even 5.1 or 5.2GHz all-core (in this case it will exceed most 9900K's in raw gaming performance!). I added the 2080 Super because it fits in your budget. Doubled the storage space. Added a (imo) better case. The RMx 850W is a straight up better PSU. Also optimized the brands a bit so you only need the "MSI Mystic Light" and "Corsair iCue" softwares to control all the RGB and fans. With your parts you'll need 4 different softwares to control it all.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3NfTC

 

Edit: You can still only get 16GB RAM and easily upgrade to 32GB later. That saves you 100$.

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - GPU: PNY RTX 3080 XLR8 Epic-X - RAM: 16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600Mhz - PSU: Corsair RMx 850W - Storage: 500 GB Samsung Evo 850 2,5" (OS) + 2 TB Samsung Evo 860 M.2 (Mass storage) - Cooling: EK & Alphacool custom loop - Case: CoolerMaster H500 - Fans: 6x Arctic P12 PWM PST - AMP/DAC: Creative Sound BlasterX G6 - Fan Controller: Corsair Commander Pro - OS: Windows 10 Pro - Monitors: 2x LG 27GN850-B HDR-Gaming-TV: LG C9 OLED 55" - Mouse: Logitech G Pro wireless + Powerplay - Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, Corsair K63 Wireless + Lapboard - Headphones: Beyerdynamic DT990 Edition 600 Ohm - Microphone: Antlion ModMic

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You really shouldn't be spending money on a top tier GPU right now. It's really not a smart move. The CPU, sure. However I'd just pick up a used GPU to use in the meantime, then sell it when the new stuff comes out. Since you'll only have it for a few months, it won't lose that much value, and you'll gain a lot of performance, or save a lot of money.

If you're only gaming, especially at 60fps, just save the money and grab the 10600k.

 

1 hour ago, tank234 said:

looks good but I would go with amd as of right now they have  the same amount of power for less. Also 32gb for general gaming is too much you should be more than enough with 16gb. But other than that they build looks solid. 

Chances are they do more than just gaming, and some people need the RAM to make the system run smoothly.

The price difference isn't that much in the grand scheme of the build.

 

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Would totally suck, if that's the actual case.  If you truly believe that AMD will magically leapfrog Intel for gaming (rather than inching a bit closer as they have been doing for years) then yes wait.

 

If you want the best gaming chips then I'd say he's right where he needs to be.  

 

Look, I am all for AMD.  Had them in the past, currently have one, and will most likely have them in the future.  But please stop the whole "AMD is better for less!!!!".  It's not.  It's close.  But close to the best isn't being the best.

 

You want a good value, look at the 3700X for the gaming PC.  3900X is overkill, it's a production chip not a gaming chip.  If you want Intel gaming, the 10600K is the gaming chip of choice it seems.

 

32GB RAM... *looks at own sig at the $300 of RAM bought at near-peak*... at RAM prices now, I'd go 32GB out of the gate.  Modded games need it, and it's cheap.  

 

1TB SSD isn't small, but grab a 3-4TB HDD for mass storage if you want.  Tho I would still recommend a SSD only PC build for your pricepoint.

 

You should be able to squeeze a 2080 Super in there, but if you are including the monitor, mouse, keyboard, headset/speakers... then maybe not.  

I'd say there's a very high chance they'll be at parity at least, while bringing that performance in at a lower price.

It'll be interesting to see if it takes Intel so long to get current chips out in the wild, that AMD actually has time to launch and stock their new CPUS..

 

I completely agree though, way too many tout AMD as the be all end all, and the only logical choice. It's not. Not everyone cares about price to performance, and not everyone needs something that performs super well in rendering etc.

 

1 hour ago, Hypercat said:

Thanks for all the responses! I figured I'd just pull the trigger since they've been talking about new chips for a while. The best way for those chips to release is for me to buy something now lol. (Always has worked in the past.) Worst case I can always upgrade next year after they work all the bugs out of the new stuff. The graphics card could be improved but I didn't see a huge improvement in performance until you get into 2080 ti which is a lot more $, that and again the newer cards will be out and proven next year so I may upgrade then.

The ram is a touch excessive but I figure "overhead" for now. /shrug

PSU I got a good deal on otherwise I probably would have gone Corsair.

I didn't see much improvement for "gaming" between the ryzen and intel. She doesn't do any work that would require the extra core bonus of the ryzen. Also the ryzen seemed more expensive flagship for flagship at least at this moment.

Just explaining why I chose what I did. Please correct me if I'm way off base. Thanks again.

They don't really iron out bugs hardware wise, and I don't think they have that many issues at launch either (well, Nvidia wise at least).

It won't take a year for them to be proven, and there's no question that there will be a performance increase.

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RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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