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My son wants to build his first gaming PC, I want it to be a good experience!

Budget (including currency): $1000-1200 (AUD)

Country: AUS

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Valorant, COD, Apex,

Other details : Currently have nothing, wanting something that will be good as a starting point and allow upgrading in the future... We have a 4K tv he can use as a monitor for the moment, but in the future I know that he would like to move to a 2+ monitor 1440 display. He would need keyboard and mouse and wifi (current house setup doesn't allow for direct connection unfortunately), and would need to have Windows operating system.

 

My son is turning 18 and wants to move to PC gaming (he's been PS4)

He's asked for the bits needed to build a decent gaming PC - obviously, once you go down the rabbit hole, it's hard to come back up from it, and tbh neither he nor I fully understand all the bits and pieces and what is going to work best.

He found this video

 

which gives the following list of parts:

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X

ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming

TEAMGroup Night Hawk RGB 16GB DDR4 3000MHz

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT (can't find this)

WD Blue 250GB M.2 SSD 

WD Blue 1TB HDD

Thermaltake V200 TG RGB w/550W PSU

 

which seems to do what he wants it to do, however I can't find some of those parts to source, nor does it come near our budget in AUD (it looked more like 1800 with a couple of substitutions) and it doesn't have operating system or peripherals included.

 

So:

Can you recommend to me if that really is a good setup to chase? If so, where can I source parts cheapest? Are there savings that I could make? Or is there a better startup build that I could consider doing for him?


Thanks in advance!

 

 

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That's a good build (I've done a few with very similar specs), however, I would suggest getting a larger SSD. This is a good deal right now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J2Q4SWZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

You could also look at getting an RTX 2060 instead of the 5700 XT.

 

And Windows is cheap from here: https://www.vip-scdkey.com/software/microsoft-pc-10-pro-oem_1227-20.html

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I would go with a little cheaper motherboard, non rgb ram at least 3200mhz, a Ryzen 5 3600 and an RTX 2070 super myself..

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Try to keep a lot of graphics power in the budget, that's typically the first thing to go obsolete in the gaming world.

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In the video he built a PC for 1000 GBP which is 1788.90 AUD...

Here is what i recommend for $1300 AUS:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sysHMc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($204.70 @ Device Deal) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($108.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card  ($389.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.70 @ Newegg Australia) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1309.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-30 13:19 AEST+1000

 

I was careful not to pick crap quality parts for the build since with that budget you need to cut a lot to reach the budget target,

To avoid crap quality parts i had to go over budget by $100.

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($130.90 @ Device Deal) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($102.29 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($85.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card  ($526.90 @ Device Deal) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($59.00 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.00 @ BudgetPC) 
Total: $1291.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-30 13:31 AEST+1000

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($116.80 @ Device Deal) 
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($102.29 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Western Digital Green 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($75.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($449.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Case: Antec VSK10 Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($62.40 @ Device Deal) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($89.00 @ Austin Computers) 
Wireless Network Adapter: fenvi FV-8802 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($45.45 @ Amazon Australia) 
Keyboard: Cooler Master Devastator 3 Wired Gaming Keyboard With Optical Mouse  ($63.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Total: $1191.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-30 13:35 AEST+1000

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10 minutes ago, AldiPrayogi said:

Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($130.90 @ Device Deal) 

7 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($116.80 @ Device Deal) 

That's a crap motherboard...

With this motherboard,upgrades are not recommended since the VRMs are not up to the task and might have issues with something like the Ryzen 5 3600,

and it can't handle CPUs like the 3900X...

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1 hour ago, Vishera said:

That's a crap motherboard...

With this motherboard,upgrades are not recommended since the VRMs are not up to the task and might have issues with something like the Ryzen 5 3600,

and it can't handle CPUs like the 3900X...

I think you missed the part where this was a budget build

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$67 above the $1200AUD budget but if you want to think about upgrading in the future I wouldn't worry. As long as your not putting in a 3900x/4900x or anything with more than 8 cores the VRM will do perfectly fine on the Mortar MAX with PBO/Auto settings. I would suggest buying a hard drive down the line for mass storage as well OR you could buy a WD BLUE 1TB HDD to replace the SSD to only come $7 above the budget but I really wouldn't recommend it at all. Utilising a SSD especially in 2020 is a must have imo.

Edited by ZeroStressLevel
I put in the wrong motherboard in the parts list.
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4 hours ago, Vishera said:

That's a crap motherboard...

Actually its an ok board. Nothing great, but can handle up to 2700x levels of draw providing there is some airflow. 

 

4 hours ago, Vishera said:

and it can't handle CPUs like the 3900X...

At stock, using the box cooler, it can. In fact a lot of motherboards can, as the 3900x is fairly tame at stock, and airflow does wonders. 

 

 

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Thanks for the help so far, a friend suggested this:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GVHxBZ

 

Thoughts?

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