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34 minutes ago, sub68 said:

both SM58 and E900 Series are very good and reliable

I doubt it's the jpop artists specifically rather it's what the producers and the stage crew typically use. And knowing how the popstar industry work in Japan and Korea these groups are super manufactured by teams so the contractors and stage workers are probably often the same resulting in the same equipment to be used and to them they found this to bethe good mic for their style of music and production like how is in the west use the sm58 for basically anything.when I used to do stage work they have proven themselves to be the most reliable mics in our collection so I used it the most

I notice sennhiser E900 series mics (e935,e945.e965) are used a lot by JPOP artist compared to us and eu pop artists using SM58 and was wondering why.

SM58 are pretty good don't get me wrong.

I think its because of venues .

Band maid a wired e945 shown here at 0:23

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trysail uses sennhiser a lot

some times they switch to sm58's

eir aoi used a SM58 in 2016

aoi eir used sennhiser in 2019 SACRA

LiSA using a sennhiser mic

but I see her mostly using SM58's

 

 

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I guess it’s a very good and reliable mic

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3 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

I guess it’s a very good and reliable mic

both SM58 and E900 Series are very good and reliable

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Maybe the eu artist are ( or their audio technicians)

3 minutes ago, sub68 said:

both SM58 and E900 Series are very good

are longer in the business and  still use their 800 mics

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Might sound a bit weird, but I think it's mostly because of Japan's loyalty to German products.

Germany and Japan have been partners for many years and are both leaders in all sorts of different technologies. There is a certain trust for German products in Japan, just like there is a certain trust in Germany for Japanese products.

 

In case you can read German: 😄
https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/aussenpolitik/laender/japan-node/bilateral/213038

Edit: Oh wait, does also exist in english: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/aussenpolitik/japan/229264

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Might sound a bit weird, but I think it's mostly because of Japan's loyalty to German products.

Germany and Japan have been partners for many years and are both leaders in all sorts of different technologies. There is a certain trust for German products in Japan, just like there is a certain trust in Germany for Japanese products.

 

In case you can read German: 😄
https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/aussenpolitik/laender/japan-node/bilateral/213038

Edit: Oh wait, does also exist in english: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/aussenpolitik/japan/229264

interesting, but isn't shure a American company

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20 minutes ago, sub68 said:

interesting, but isn't shure a American company

Heh.  Used to be.

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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Heh.  Used to be.

what do you mean?

unless they manufacture there mics outside the us

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34 minutes ago, sub68 said:

both SM58 and E900 Series are very good and reliable

I doubt it's the jpop artists specifically rather it's what the producers and the stage crew typically use. And knowing how the popstar industry work in Japan and Korea these groups are super manufactured by teams so the contractors and stage workers are probably often the same resulting in the same equipment to be used and to them they found this to bethe good mic for their style of music and production like how is in the west use the sm58 for basically anything.when I used to do stage work they have proven themselves to be the most reliable mics in our collection so I used it the most

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Just now, rice guru said:

the stage crew typically use

coming from a audio engineer this makes sense

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1 minute ago, rice guru said:

the sm58 for basically anything

yep same

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2 minutes ago, rice guru said:

And knowing how the popstar industry work in Japan and Korea

these are not idol groups

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13 minutes ago, sub68 said:

what do you mean?

unless they manufacture there mics outside the us

My memory is sure is Japanese.  This means they likely either always were Japanese or became Japanese.   Might have recently become American (again?) in which case they were Japanese

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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

My memory is sure is Japanese.  This means they likely either always were Japanese or became Japanese.   Might have recently become American (again?) in which case they were Japanese

Are you talking about Sennheiser?

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2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

My memory is sure is Japanese.  This means they likely either always were Japanese or became Japanese.   Might have recently become American (again?) in which case they were Japanese

I mean shure is not https://www.shure.com/en-US

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5 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

Are you talking about Sennheiser?

Shure.  My memory of the brand comes from consumer stereo equipment in the 80’s.

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Just now, Drama Lama said:

Are you talking about Sennheiser?

he probably is but i know that its german

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5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Sure.  My memory of the brand comes from consumer stereo equipment in the 80’s.

ahh no shure sm58 was made in the 60s

I think your thinking about bose

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Just now, sub68 said:

he probably is but i know that its german

It’s founded in Germany ( there’s even an LTT factory tour video) but some of their professional grade equipment is made in USA 

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Just now, Drama Lama said:

It’s founded in Germany ( there’s even an LTT factory tour video) but some of their professional grade equipment is made in USA 

I know that sennhesier is german my middle school german teacher liked how I would wear sennheiser headphones

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4 minutes ago, sub68 said:

sm58 was made in the 60s

So that might go along with my theory

57 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

Maybe the eu artist are ( or their audio technicians)

are longer in the business and  still use their 800 mics

 

Hi

 

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Just now, Drama Lama said:

So that might go along with my theory

in what way

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3 minutes ago, sub68 said:

ahh no shure sm58 was made in the 60s

I think your thinking about bose

Nope.  The site link didn’t mention consumer stuff at all.  The brand name might not even belong to the same company any more.  Shure was one of the Japanese companies that was part of the Japanese invasion that came into the US and ripped apart the consumer cassette tape deck market.  Happened with TVs as well.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Nope.  The site link didn’t mention consumer stuff at all.  The brand name might not even belong to the same company any more.  Shure was one of the Japanese companies that was part of the Japanese invasion that came into the US and ripped apart the consumer cassette tape deck market.  Happened with TVs as well.

I think your thinking about bose or sony

cause shure has been a American company for as long as i remember

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Just now, sub68 said:

I think your thinking about bose or sony

99% sure I’m not.  I had a shure cassette deck

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