How numbered are PC-building days?

[KuzunohaXXII]

With Windows Virtual Desktop out, I have been seeing a lot of talk about Microsoft having a goal of moving all Windows computing to the cloud, and that we'd only have barebones machines that would just be used to connect to the virtual desktop. I know WVD, as it currently is, is meant just for enterprise users, but the talk I've been hearing is that all use-cases will be moved to the cloud eventually. I realize there's a lot of uncertainty among consumers in regards to this, as this effectively makes all computers completely useless if you have no internet connection or your connection drops, not to mention it would spell the end of local storage meaning all data would have to be cloud-stored and I know many would be uncomfortable with that. There's also the issue with services like Stadia still having significant latency issues.

 

There isn't any kind of official roadmap published by Microsoft in regards to this, but are any others worried about enthusiast PC-building days being numbered? I suppose we could build our machines that connect to the cloud, but that definitely wouldn't be the same.

[starry]

7 minutes ago, KuzunohaXXII said:

With Windows Virtual Desktop out, I have been seeing a lot of talk about Microsoft having a goal of moving all Windows computing to the cloud, and that we'd only have barebones machines that would just be used to connect to the virtual desktop. I know WVD, as it currently is, is meant just for enterprise users, but the talk I've been hearing is that all use-cases will be moved to the cloud eventually. I realize there's a lot of uncertainty among consumers in regards to this, as this effectively makes all computers completely useless if you have no internet connection or your connection drops, not to mention it would spell the end of local storage meaning all data would have to be cloud-stored and I know many would be uncomfortable with that. There's also the issue with services like Stadia still having significant latency issues.

 

There isn't any kind of official roadmap published by Microsoft in regards to this, but are any others worried about enthusiast PC-building days being numbered? I suppose we could build our machines that connect to the cloud, but that definitely wouldn't be the same.

I also see Microsoft definitely heading in this direction. But I don't think this would ever end PC building. I think that Linux adoption will be the answer to this, especially for enthusiasts. We currently have a record number of people switching to Linux, so even if Microsoft did this I don't really see it completely saturating the market so even if Linux adoption is less than I think it will be I don't think this will be an issue. There will always be options for home client-side computing. As more and more people become fed up with the intrusiveness a lot of microsoft products have to people's workflow, people only having thin clients and not being able to tweak how stuff like notifications and background tasks work, I think the average user will adopt linux as well.

[Guest]

I have enough hardware saved up I can relive the past and create numerous builds of semi excellent quality. 

 

People that buy pre-built generally rip themselves off. It's a shame.

[atxcyclist]

Microsoft thinks they want to do that, but outside of some obscure use cases the industry/enthusiasts are not going to allow it. 

[GDRRiley]

it will never go away

it is like saying when will custom cars go away same answer never.

there will always be people customizing and building stuff

[Beerzerker]

59 minutes ago, KuzunohaXXII said:

With Windows Virtual Desktop out, I have been seeing a lot of talk about Microsoft having a goal of moving all Windows computing to the cloud, and that we'd only have barebones machines that would just be used to connect to the virtual desktop. I know WVD, as it currently is, is meant just for enterprise users, but the talk I've been hearing is that all use-cases will be moved to the cloud eventually. I realize there's a lot of uncertainty among consumers in regards to this, as this effectively makes all computers completely useless if you have no internet connection or your connection drops, not to mention it would spell the end of local storage meaning all data would have to be cloud-stored and I know many would be uncomfortable with that. There's also the issue with services like Stadia still having significant latency issues.

 

There isn't any kind of official roadmap published by Microsoft in regards to this, but are any others worried about enthusiast PC-building days being numbered? I suppose we could build our machines that connect to the cloud, but that definitely wouldn't be the same.

No.
Ain't happening here.

 

Damn right I'm "Uncomfortable" with such, esp from a corp that has done some really dumbassed things in it's past including the recent smooth-move of trying to use a satanist in an ad campaign and got B-Slapped all over the web over it.

I mean talk about a really trustworthy image .... NOT.

 

Won't happen here and I will go offline before it's allowed here at my place.

[Roswell]

10 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

No.
Ain't happening here.

 

Damn right I'm "Uncomfortable" with such, esp from a corp that has done some really dumbassed things in it's past including the recent smooth-move of trying to use a satanist in an ad campaign and got B-Slapped all over the web over it.

I mean talk about a really trustworthy image .... NOT.

 

Won't happen here and I will go offline before it's allowed here at my place.

Please stop with the garbage conspiracy theories, she's not some Illuminati Satanist.

 

Alt-right trolls started chirping and a bunch of intellectually challenged people actually believed it, ruining the woman's image. 

 

What's next, are you going to tell us about our reptilian overlords or how the earth is flat?

[spartaman64]

my isp craps out 3 times a year so gl with that. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 hour ago, KuzunohaXXII said:

With Windows Virtual Desktop out, I have been seeing a lot of talk about Microsoft having a goal of moving all Windows computing to the cloud, and that we'd only have barebones machines that would just be used to connect to the virtual desktop. I know WVD, as it currently is, is meant just for enterprise users, but the talk I've been hearing is that all use-cases will be moved to the cloud eventually. I realize there's a lot of uncertainty among consumers in regards to this, as this effectively makes all computers completely useless if you have no internet connection or your connection drops, not to mention it would spell the end of local storage meaning all data would have to be cloud-stored and I know many would be uncomfortable with that. There's also the issue with services like Stadia still having significant latency issues.

 

There isn't any kind of official roadmap published by Microsoft in regards to this, but are any others worried about enthusiast PC-building days being numbered? I suppose we could build our machines that connect to the cloud, but that definitely wouldn't be the same.

Considering there are still parts of the world that are still not connected to the internet or have very low down and upload speeds, having dedicated computers are not going away soon. This isn't just a "enthusiast PC" issue. 

[Beerzerker]

1 hour ago, Vitamanic said:

Please stop with the garbage conspiracy theories, she's not some Illuminati Satanist.

 

Alt-right trolls started chirping and a bunch of intellectually challenged people actually believed it, ruining the woman's image. 

 

What's next, are you going to tell us about our reptilian overlords or how the earth is flat?

With respect - Seriously:

It's not theory - It's fact. 

 

At least the satanist part of it is and has been proven in actions taken by the individual and even the advertisement video itself shows it.

And as for image, she's taken care of that on her own.

I never referred to the Illuminati either so stop putting words in my mouth I didn't say already.
If I should believe the Illuminati are part of it too, I'll say so directly and I require no help to that end.

 

And yes, our reptilian overlords are on the march and since the earth is flat they will be here soon - Get ready.

 

I stated my reasons why I disagree with MS over it as part of the discussion and that's it.

 

I've spoken my peace, that's good enough so carry on guys.

~Out.
 

[Jtalk4456]

yeah cuz all the gamers really want to rely on cloud servers running corporate controlled and monitored software for running their fortnite and CS:GO. 

This is obviously not going to happen. There will be some people willing to do this who just don't care, but lets be real, it's not for most people

[Dedayog]

3 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I have enough hardware saved up I can relive the past and create numerous builds of semi excellent quality. 

 

People that buy pre-built generally rip themselves off. It's a shame.

Not always, prebuilts can be had for a good value, you just have to understand that you're paying for their expertise (as it is) and build time.  As well as bulk purchasing of parts.

 

Besides, will you really build your nostalgia machines or just know the parts are there.  Hell, I have a K2-350 on my shelf somewhere as well as my almost 2x OC e4300, but doesn't mean I'll ever use them.

 

We rip ourselves off all the time, I build my own PCs but hire a handy man to work on my yard and house.  I could save thousands if I wanted.  

 

I just think prebuilts get too bad of a rap.

 

As to the original question, I am sure cloud computing will be good for the majority of users who need a tablet level computing, but for serious folks?  Naw, will always be a niche market.

[Guest]

Just now, Dedayog said:

Not always, prebuilts can be had for a good value, you just have to understand that you're paying for their expertise (as it is) and build time.  As well as bulk purchasing of parts.

 

Besides, will you really build your nostalgia machines or just know the parts are there.  Hell, I have a K2-350 on my shelf somewhere as well as my almost 2x OC e4300, but doesn't mean I'll ever use them.

 

We rip ourselves off all the time, I build my own cars but hire a handy man to work on my yard and house.  I could save thousands if I wanted.  

 

I just think prebuilts get too bad of a rap.

 

As to the original question, I am sure cloud computing will be good for the majority of users who need a tablet level computing, but for serious folks?  Naw, will always be a niche market.

In fact I do build them every so often. Just for competitive benchmarking purposes. I just hung up my socket 939 DFI UT Lan Party and Socket A Abit NF2 Guru board. No I did not install them into cases because I don't want to use them every day. Need to keep them operational, every once a year I try and visit a few boards from the old days. 

Pre-builds get a bad rap because yea, you can get a top chip and motherboard, decent video card, get skimped on quality of fans, PSU and memory which are all very important to building a good rig,

 

There's a market for everything. 

So long as there's people to buy it, it'll be sold.

_________

 

Ya anyways lol

 

Little do you know exactly how much cloud computing you already do. 

 

[atxcyclist]

2 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

No.
Ain't happening here.

 

Damn right I'm "Uncomfortable" with such, esp from a corp that has done some really dumbassed things in it's past including the recent smooth-move of trying to use a satanist in an ad campaign and got B-Slapped all over the web over it.

I mean talk about a really trustworthy image .... NOT.

 

Won't happen here and I will go offline before it's allowed here at my place.

 

2 hours ago, Vitamanic said:

Please stop with the garbage conspiracy theories, she's not some Illuminati Satanist.

 

Alt-right trolls started chirping and a bunch of intellectually challenged people actually believed it, ruining the woman's image. 

 

What's next, are you going to tell us about our reptilian overlords or how the earth is flat?

 

Satanists? The alt-right? Huh? I thought this was a thread about cloud computing.

[Guest]

Meh. Cloud computing. We've all been doing it for a long time already. F@H boinc R@H anyone?

 

When can I matrix already? lol. 

 

[Beerzerker]

16 minutes ago, atxcyclist said:

 

 

Satanists? The alt-right? Huh? I thought this was a thread about cloud computing.

It is.

As I said earlier I've spoken my peace about it and that's the end of it on my part so carry on guys.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

It is.

As I said earlier I've spoken my peace about it and that's the end of it on my part so carry on guys.

Nvm them. They didn't read the part that stood out mostly to you and I.

I'll quote it here.

 

,"" but are any others worried about enthusiast PC-building days being numbered? ""

 

I'll be offline with Zerker for those wondering. Just to old to have a need for it. Grew up without it can die without it. Just like my funkin hair. (I'm not actually balding yet.)