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My friend wants to buy a good enough pc to play some competitive games (DOTA 2, CSGO)

Will this be enough?

 

i3 6th gen 3.70 ghz

Asus H110

Cougar 600w 80+ Bronze

HyperFury 8gb ddr3 1866mhz

Palit 750ti

 

He's buying a full set for 400$ inculding 23inch monitor a tower with fans and a 1 terra drive

Will he be getting the best value for his money?

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all that for $400 probably the best he will do. thats like a 2015 budget build

but he will still have to save up later on since there is no real upgrades. better off buying a new system next vs upgrading unless he gets the parts cheap or free.

See my blog for amusing encounters from IT workplace: http://linustechtips.com/main/blog/585-life-of-a-techie/

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Just now, blu4 said:

all that for $400 probably the best he will do. thats like a 2015 budget build

So if you were him, would you be happy with the deal?

 

I'm thinking of recommending him to Ryzen CPU's since it packs a punch 

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Just now, zedisdead said:

So if you were him, would you be happy with the deal?

 

I'm thinking of recommending him to Ryzen CPU's since it packs a punch 

it comes with a monitor so yes. you can get ryzen but for $400 a whole rig? eh, maybe get to like $600-$700 and get a good rig.

a monitor is like $100, drive is like $50 really should have a SSD that like $80

 

if hes buying all used maybe.

 

what parts does he need? just the PC? does he have like keyboard and mouse. will he need to buy windows 10?

 

See my blog for amusing encounters from IT workplace: http://linustechtips.com/main/blog/585-life-of-a-techie/

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1 minute ago, blu4 said:

it comes with a monitor so yes. you can get ryzen but for $400 a whole rig? eh, maybe get to like $600-$700 and get a good rig.

a monitor is like $100, drive is like $50 really should have a SSD that like $80

 

if hes buying all used maybe.

 

what parts does he need? just the PC? does he have like keyboard and mouse. will he need to buy windows 10?

 

He's starting from scratch. No Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor. 

It's his first pc. And I want to direct him to a good one because he absolutely don't have any clue about pc

And I want his 400$ to be spent on a not so crappy pc

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4 minutes ago, zedisdead said:

He's starting from scratch. No Keyboard, Mouse and Monitor. 

It's his first pc. And I want to direct him to a good one because he absolutely don't have any clue about pc

And I want his 400$ to be spent on a not so crappy pc

If you need all that I would save more money. again unless you are going used. $400 is what people on a budget usually spend on a GPU + CPU then like $200-$300 on the rest.

 

Maybe look for a used like x580 or 390 and try to find a decent cheap CPU and mobo to pair it with. 16gb of ram and decent PSU

See my blog for amusing encounters from IT workplace: http://linustechtips.com/main/blog/585-life-of-a-techie/

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40 minutes ago, zedisdead said:

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If you want your friend to have a good PC, this is the clear option.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (14nm) 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($87.20 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($72.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card  ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Aerocool Shard ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.32 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $471.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 09:54 EDT-0400

 

The Ryzen 3 1200 is close to two times faster than the i3 6100
The RX 570 is over two times faster than the 750 Ti
The Corsair CV Power Supply isn't great but it won't set his house on fire under load.
The board is better and can support an upgrade to say a Ryzen 5 3600 in the future.
The RAM is surprisingly decent value for the price

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14 minutes ago, blu4 said:

If you need all that I would save more money. again unless you are going used. $400 is what people on a budget usually spend on a GPU + CPU then like $200-$300 on the rest.

 

Maybe look for a used like x580 or 390 and try to find a decent cheap CPU and mobo to pair it with. 16gb of ram and decent PSU

that's the extent of his budget. he won't go higher than that. 

 

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Just now, zedisdead said:

that's the extent of his budget. he won't go higher than that. 

 

Upgrading a used workstation as 5x5 said may be the best option then.

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.2.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: 4K Blu-Ray Drive
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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2 minutes ago, zedisdead said:

that's the extent of his budget. he won't go higher than that. 

 

In that case consider the above build I've listed but get a used 1060/570/580 for 70-80 USD. Seriously, the system he's being offered is a rip-off and will likely fail due to the extremely poor quality and dangerous power supply.

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The i3 and GTX 750 in that build really are quite underpowered.

BabyBlu (Primary): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.2.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: 4K Blu-Ray Drive
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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5 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

 

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

You having something doesn't make it good. Seriously, the amount of times someone recommends a poor option just because "I have it and therefore it must be good" is alarming to say the least....

 

If you want your friend to have a good PC, this is the clear option.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 (14nm) 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($87.20 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($72.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($42.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 570 4 GB Phantom Gaming D Video Card  ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Aerocool Shard ATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.32 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CV 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $471.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 09:54 EDT-0400

 

The Ryzen 3 1200 is close to two times faster than the i3 6100
The RX 570 is over two times faster than the 750 Ti
The Corsair CV Power Supply isn't great but it won't set his house on fire under load.
The board is better and can support an upgrade to say a Ryzen 5 3600 in the future.
The RAM is surprisingly decent value for the price

Thanks for both of your inputs!

I'll show him this and try to convice him to wait a little longer

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