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Budget (including currency): US 2000

Country: Us

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Upcoming microsoft flight simulator, GTA V, Smite, minecraft, tf2, call of duty.

Other details

 https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jamesthebuilder/saved/#view=Nwb9NG

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jamesthebuilder/saved/#view=BJdVcf

So I was getting the 2080 SUPER instead of 107 ti. 

My only questions are 1070 ti vs 2080 supper.

Is 16gb enough ram.

Yes I know I kneed a capture card, keyboard, and mouse, 

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Are you going from the first build to the second build?

 

Also, what does "GTX vs ATX" mean

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

Are you going from the first build to the second build?

 

Also, what does "GTX vs ATX" mean

He must've meant GTX vs RTX, something about a 2080 and a 1070ti

Desktop - i5-9600KF @4.8GHz all core, MSI Z390-A PRO, 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000MHz, MSI GTX 1660S OC 6GB, WD Blue 500GB M.2 SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD

Laptop - ASUS ZenBook 14 with ScreenPad, i7-1165G7, Xe iGPU 96EU, 16GB Octa-Channel 4200MHz, MX450 2GB, 512GB SSD with 32GB Optane

 

Old Laptop 1 - HP Pavilion 15, A10-9600P, R5 iGPU, 8GB, R8 M445DX, 2TB HDD

Old Laptop 2 - HP Pavilion 15 TouchSmart, i3-3217U, Intel HD 4000, 4GB, 1TB HDD

 

iPad 2018 - 128GB

iPhone XR - 128GB

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Just now, bengeoghegan11 said:

He must've meant GTX vs RTX, something about a 2080 and a 1070ti

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Just now, The curious James said:

yes

I'm trying to figure about which one better performance per dollar 

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2 minutes ago, The curious James said:

first 

What does this mean?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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6 minutes ago, The curious James said:

Budget (including currency): US 2000

Country: Us

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Upcoming microsoft flight simulator, GTA V, Smite, minecraft, tf2, call of duty.

Other details

 https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jamesthebuilder/saved/#view=Nwb9NG

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jamesthebuilder/saved/#view=BJdVcf

So I was getting the 2080 SUPER instead of 107 ti. 

My only questions are 1070 ti vs 2080 supper.

Is 16gb enough ram.

Yes I know I kneed a capture card, keyboard, and mouse, 

I'm trying to figure about which one better performance per dollar

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

What does this mean?

sorry this is my first build 

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Just now, The curious James said:

I'm trying to figure about which one better performance per dollar 

By a long shot ryzen. Hundreds of dollars cheaper with the same class of performance, and a much, much better upgrade path.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k (won) - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G2 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

Linux Proliant ML150 G6:

Dual Xeon X5560 - 24GB ECC DDR3 - GTX 750 TI - old Seagate 1.5TB HDD - dark mode Ubuntu (and Win7, cuz why not)

 

How many watts do I need? Seasonic Focus threadUserbenchmark (Et al.) is trash explained, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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1 minute ago, The curious James said:

yes

Difference between GTX and RTX is that RTX cards have ray tracing, if you're looking exclusively at the 1070 vs the 2080 then you'll want to go for the 2080, it's much newer and with a $2000 budget I doubt you'll want to go for older parts

Desktop - i5-9600KF @4.8GHz all core, MSI Z390-A PRO, 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000MHz, MSI GTX 1660S OC 6GB, WD Blue 500GB M.2 SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD

Laptop - ASUS ZenBook 14 with ScreenPad, i7-1165G7, Xe iGPU 96EU, 16GB Octa-Channel 4200MHz, MX450 2GB, 512GB SSD with 32GB Optane

 

Old Laptop 1 - HP Pavilion 15, A10-9600P, R5 iGPU, 8GB, R8 M445DX, 2TB HDD

Old Laptop 2 - HP Pavilion 15 TouchSmart, i3-3217U, Intel HD 4000, 4GB, 1TB HDD

 

iPad 2018 - 128GB

iPhone XR - 128GB

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I would not spend $2,000 on a gaming PC if avoidable. IMO that's way too much money, but if you want, this is just about the best you can build for that price...
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($409.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA SU800 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($60.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($683.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: GameMax Kage ATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor  ($449.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($69.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2151.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 08:36 EDT-0400

 

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i7-7700HQ | GTX 1060 | 16GB DDR4 | 512GB NVMe SSD | 1440p OLED display | Logitech MX Master Moondrop Aria IEM

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

I would not spend $2,000 on a gaming PC if avoidable. IMO that's way too much money, but if you want, this is just about the best you can build for that price...
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($409.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA SU800 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($60.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($683.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: GameMax Kage ATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor  ($449.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($69.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2151.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 08:36 EDT-0400

 

I'd look at the i5 10600K actually too.    From reviews it seems to be a better value, GN just gave it the best Gaming CPU title.

Emma : i9 9900K 5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200Mhz - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID 0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz - Mackie CR5BT - Corsair Virtuoso SE - Logitech G910, G502 - Cooler Master Universal Graphics Card Holder

 

Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Samsung 27" + Dell 24" 

 

Raven:  Intel i3 10100F - ASRock H410M-HDV - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2666Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Inland 256GB SSD + Toshiba 2TB HDD - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Spectre 24" 

 

Other Tech:

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 - i7 7700HQ, 16GB 2400 MHz RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I'd look at the i5 10600K actually too.    From reviews it seems to be a better value, GN just gave it the best Gaming CPU title.

Correct. With that you can fit a 2080 ti into a $2500 budget. I think that's absurd, but on the other hand it'll be future proofed through the next 8 years.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA SU800 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($60.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card  ($1179.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: GameMax Kage ATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Best Buy) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor  ($449.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($69.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2488.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 08:49 EDT-0400

ALIENWARE 13R3

i7-7700HQ | GTX 1060 | 16GB DDR4 | 512GB NVMe SSD | 1440p OLED display | Logitech MX Master Moondrop Aria IEM

 

 

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1 minute ago, Rancidpunk said:
 

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i7-7700HQ | GTX 1060 | 16GB DDR4 | 512GB NVMe SSD | 1440p OLED display | Logitech MX Master Moondrop Aria IEM

 

 

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Just now, Aereldor said:

Correct. With that you can fit a 2080 ti into a $2500 budget. I think that's absurd, but on the other hand it'll be future proofed through the next 8 years.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler  ($38.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA SU800 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($60.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card  ($1179.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: GameMax Kage ATX Mid Tower Case  ($40.04 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Best Buy) 
Monitor: MSI Optix MAG341CQ 34.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor  ($449.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($69.99 @ Best Buy) 
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2488.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 08:49 EDT-0400

Well yeah, but he only has a $2000 budget :) Plus, you put a 2080Ti in a $40 case. No way.

 

I'd want more storage too.

 

But regardless, if the OP only has a choice between a couple prebuilts... it's been answered.

Emma : i9 9900K 5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200Mhz - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID 0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz - Mackie CR5BT - Corsair Virtuoso SE - Logitech G910, G502 - Cooler Master Universal Graphics Card Holder

 

Plex : Ryzen 5 1600 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - 840 EVO 256GB + Toshiba P300 3TB - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi - Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 500 - Antec Nine Hundred - Samsung 27" + Dell 24" 

 

Raven:  Intel i3 10100F - ASRock H410M-HDV - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2666Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Inland 256GB SSD + Toshiba 2TB HDD - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Spectre 24" 

 

Other Tech:

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 - i7 7700HQ, 16GB 2400 MHz RAM, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

 

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16 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Well yeah, but he only has a $2000 budget :) Plus, you put a 2080Ti in a $40 case. No way.

 

I'd want more storage too.

 

But regardless, if the OP only has a choice between a couple prebuilts... it's been answered.

Case was parametric for cheapest tempered glass atx tower. OP can change it... Doesn't really make a difference. 

It's not as stupid as recommending an HDD in 2020 

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2 hours ago, Aereldor said:

Why wouldn't you use a mechanical drive as extra media storage when there's a 500gb nvme for the OS and games if he wants faster loading?

 

The 1tb you linked to is $120 and he can get 4tb mech storage for that price. 

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17 hours ago, Rancidpunk said:

Why wouldn't you use a mechanical drive as extra media storage when there's a 500gb nvme for the OS and games if he wants faster loading?

 

The 1tb you linked to is $120 and he can get 4tb mech storage for that price. 

It was $60 when I linked it. 1TB SSD at $100 - even SATA - is like 9-10 times faster than your dinosaur mech drive. NVMe SSDs can also be found for around $100 for 1TB, and they're even faster. 3x price for maybe 12x the speed and the same amount of space? No brainer. 

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i7-7700HQ | GTX 1060 | 16GB DDR4 | 512GB NVMe SSD | 1440p OLED display | Logitech MX Master Moondrop Aria IEM

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

It was $60 when I linked it. 1TB SSD at $100 - even SATA - is like 9-10 times faster than your dinosaur mech drive. NVMe SSDs can also be found for around $100 for 1TB, and they're even faster. 3x price for maybe 12x the speed and the same amount of space? No brainer. 

Why do you need such fast storage for a system that has an nvme boot drive?

 

On partpicker SSD's start at $0.093 per Gb and HDD's begin around $0.027 per Gb so he can get huge amounts of storage for a third of the cost while still having a fast boot drive.

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2 hours ago, Rancidpunk said:

Why do you need such fast storage for a system that has an nvme boot drive?

 

On partpicker SSD's start at $0.093 per Gb and HDD's begin around $0.027 per Gb so he can get huge amounts of storage for a third of the cost while still having a fast boot drive.

It's a $500gb NVMe drive. If you want more than a handful of games installed at a time, that's not going to cut it. The total price for your 500gb nvme drive and a 1tb dino drive is $120. 

The 2TB version of that Intel 660p drive has been as low as $200... And it's not even the fastest. There are plenty of NVMe 1TB SSDs for less than $120. 

SSDs are also infinitely more reliable - even the cheap ones. And you're not recommending a server-class HDD that's actually reliable, it's the asshat 1tb barracude that cost $45 in 2015 and is $45 now, in 2020.

It's not just games. Having a fast SSD for storage makes all the difference in the world when you're editing video. If you're editing audio with large enough files, it makes a difference there too. If you have an enormous library of offline music, it's going to make a colossal difference there. 

There's a reason an SSD is the #1 upgrade people make to an old machine and the upgrade that makes the most difference to the user experience, and not just as a boot drive.

You're being defensive, not logical. There is no reason to recommend an HDD even at a $300 budget, and this guy can pay 2 fucking grand. 

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@The curious James don't listen to this guy. Under no circumstances should you buy an HDD unless you're trying to build a 20tb media server or something. 

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So why would you recommend expensive storage to someone trying to build a gaming rig?

 

He's not editing video or audio or we would be telling him to buy Ryzen so any money he can save on unnecessary costs can go towards a better GPU.

 

When are you actually going to explain why he needs this faster expensive storage?

 

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