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RED is uncommon in the cinema world, though is more common on high end television/streaming. Arri film cameras and equivalent are the main cinema choices.

 

Film is a superior acquisition format to digital - a digital recording has a fixed resolution which isn’t very futureproof, whereas film can be rescanned to high resolution.

 

For instance, in the early 2000s a lot of television started to be shot in digital - at 480p or 576p, and videotape before that. These recordings can never be effectively upscaled and released on BluRay.
 

Whereas anything shot on analog film could be rescanned. Hence why movies from the 70s can still be released on 4K BluRay and make money.

 

Movies shot on RED now might look great now, but when 100K is the standard for television an 8K recording might not scale up very well, whereas you’d be able to get a useable image by rescanning a film to 100K.

 

Among other reasons of course - such as RED being fairly well known to be fairly unreliable and not offer great support.

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Why is that most of the time you see in behind the scenes stuff they use those big cameras that uses a film magazine, why not use something like a RED camera?

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They do use RED cameras. As well as a handful of other brands like ARRI. Sometimes you'll see film cameras that they then instantly digitize as it gives it a certain look. Sometimes they'll use IMAX cameras and they are just massive

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RED is uncommon in the cinema world, though is more common on high end television/streaming. Arri film cameras and equivalent are the main cinema choices.

 

Film is a superior acquisition format to digital - a digital recording has a fixed resolution which isn’t very futureproof, whereas film can be rescanned to high resolution.

 

For instance, in the early 2000s a lot of television started to be shot in digital - at 480p or 576p, and videotape before that. These recordings can never be effectively upscaled and released on BluRay.
 

Whereas anything shot on analog film could be rescanned. Hence why movies from the 70s can still be released on 4K BluRay and make money.

 

Movies shot on RED now might look great now, but when 100K is the standard for television an 8K recording might not scale up very well, whereas you’d be able to get a useable image by rescanning a film to 100K.

 

Among other reasons of course - such as RED being fairly well known to be fairly unreliable and not offer great support.

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1 hour ago, Dredgy said:

RED is uncommon in the cinema world, though is more common on high end television/streaming. Arri film cameras and equivalent are the main cinema choices.

 

Film is a superior acquisition format to digital - a digital recording has a fixed resolution which isn’t very futureproof, whereas film can be rescanned to high resolution.

 

For instance, in the early 2000s a lot of television started to be shot in digital - at 480p or 576p, and videotape before that. These recordings can never be effectively upscaled and released on BluRay.
 

Whereas anything shot on analog film could be rescanned. Hence why movies from the 70s can still be released on 4K BluRay and make money.

 

Movies shot on RED now might look great now, but when 100K is the standard for television an 8K recording might not scale up very well, whereas you’d be able to get a useable image by rescanning a film to 100K.

 

Among other reasons of course - such as RED being fairly well known to be fairly unreliable and not offer great support.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/someone-used-neural-networks-to-upscale-a-famous-1896-video-to-4k-quality/

 

maybe possible solution for up scaling? not sure how that would work with modern films though lol

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ARRI is the biggest one used for movies, both film and digital versions.

This shows what cameras were used.

 

19 hours ago, Dredgy said:

Film is a superior acquisition format to digital - a digital recording has a fixed resolution which isn’t very futureproof, whereas film can be rescanned to high resolution.

 

Movies shot on RED now might look great now, but when 100K is the standard for television an 8K recording might not scale up very well, whereas you’d be able to get a useable image by rescanning a film to 100K.

 

Among other reasons of course - such as RED being fairly well known to be fairly unreliable and not offer great support.

Not really, they have pros and cons. you can get a much better low light image out of digital and 4k masters look to be plenty for the next 10-20 years. good luck keeping all that film

 

BS 100K makes 0 sense. I get you are trying to justify film over digital but it is mostly used for a specific look now

 

Often that is why they end up renting 1 extra red.

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On 5/26/2020 at 5:59 PM, Nine Tailed Fox said:

Why is that most of the time you see in behind the scenes stuff they use those big cameras that uses a film magazine, why not use something like a RED camera?

Film can be rescanned in the future (for example, Wizard of Oz), digital is forever stuck in its era (for example, 28 Days Later..)

 

Just look at how sh*tty this looks, and it's going to look sh*tty forever and ever and ever:

 

Now look at this, Looks pretty great for a movie that's approaching 100 years old!

 

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On 5/29/2020 at 10:53 PM, Action_Johnson said:

Film can be rescanned in the future (for example, Wizard of Oz), digital is forever stuck in its era (for example, 28 Days Later..)

 

Just look at how sh*tty this looks, and it's going to look sh*tty forever and ever and ever:

 

Now look at this, Looks pretty great for a movie that's approaching 100 years old!

 

I understand your point but you're comparing 3CCD 1/3" footage to 35mm film footage.

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