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way overdue for an upgrade -- need expert advice

Budget (including currency): less than 500 USD (may push it further to meet my goal)

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I want a very solid 1080p gaming only. no streaming, no content creation, only gaming)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

I want to upgrade my current system, it is not cutting it for my anymore. Most games I play are choppy with unbearable tearing with medium to low sittings. The system I have consist of:

1- Motherboard MSI Z97m (micro ATX)

2- CPU i5-4690K water cooled with Corsair H100i 240 mm cooler.

3- RAM 16 GB G.skill Rib-jaws DDR3 (not sure about memory speed).

4- and the horrible GTX-970.

5- I am not happy with my monitor it is a 21:9 LG unit. I think it ruins performance as there are more pixels to render without real advantage in gaming, also not all games looks good in 21:9 aspect ratio. I may keep it for now but if the price is right may upgrade to 16:9 that have g-sync or free-sync (this item is outside the 500 USD budget) let me hear your suggestions.

6- my PSU is Cooler Master v750 80+ gold

7- my storage is crucial SSD 446 GB.

8- please do not recommend any other peripherals

 

since this is an upgrade not a new system build and I will be mixing new and very old parts to save money, then the most important thing here is compatibility. I was thinking to upgrade the graphics card only but I do not know if that will work with my old motherboard or if it will be bottle-necked by my CPU. At the end, I want to have an outstanding 1080p gaming experience playing any AAA titles.

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How much more are you willing to go? here are some suggestions for you 

 

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-overclock the cpu. What psu do you have?

- buy something like rx 5700. What storages do you have? 

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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Just now, tank234 said:

How much more are you willing to go? here are some suggestions for you 

 

he said 500 USD budget

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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Just graphics card will be enough for just 60fps, maybe PSU depending on the model and wattage. $500 is not enough to completely rebuild it so the CPU will have to do for now.

 

7 minutes ago, tank234 said:

 

     
Power Supply Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $794.67
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $784.67
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 10:15 EDT-0400  

 

disastrous PSU

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
Storage Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $67.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $359.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $85.98 @ Newegg
Monitor VIOTEK GN27D 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $269.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor MSI Optix G241 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $189.99 @ Best Buy
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $983.94
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $973.94
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 10:19 EDT-0400  

since i do not know if you have a ssd yet so i included one.

rx 5700 is very nice card for 1080p or 1440p gaming.

since i dont knwo if you have good quality psu i included one.

 

now there are two monitors you could buy.

- 144hz 1080p ips monitor. great for 1080p gaming. but in 1080p your games will use more cpu than in 1440p so you are probably going to get a small bottleneck (much higher bottlenekc without decent overclock)

 

-144hz 1440p VA monitor. Great for gaming too. in 1440p yo uare less bottlenecked by the cpu since games favor more gpu than cpu in 1440p. if i were you, i would get the 1440p monitor

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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in 1440p your cpu wont bottleneck will be some kind minimal (with decent gpu like rx 5700 and up)

in 1080p your cpu will bottleneck hard (even with decent gpu), but if you overclock the cpu to 4.5ghz+ you make your cpu bottleneck much less.

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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25 minutes ago, tank234 said:

How much more are you willing to go? here are some suggestions for you 

 

good suggestion but I am not looking for upgrading everything, I want to upgrade one or two components (most likely GPU). unless you meant to say that upgrading GPU only won't work. thanks.

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28 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

-overclock the cpu. What psu do you have?

- buy something like rx 5700. What storages do you have? 

Interesting suggestion, do you thing this combination will work fine in a Z97 MOBO?

 

I have a Cooler Master v750 80+ gold PSU.

my storage is Crucial SSD 446 GB

both installed when I built the system in 2016.

 

thanks.

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Just now, Game bot 9000 MK III said:

Interesting suggestion, do you thing this combination will work fine in a Z97 MOBO?

 

I have a Cooler Master v750 80+ gold PSU.

my storage is Crucial SSD 446 GB

both installed when I built the system in 2016.

 

thanks.

ok. another ssd will come handy. if not now it will come in the future.

that psu is decent so rx 5700 makes sense.

it will work well with that motherboard, but as i said overclock the cpu too.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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oh my bad didn't read the whole thing. I would go with a 5700 then like savageNeo said

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30 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just graphics card will be enough for just 60fps, maybe PSU depending on the model and wattage. $500 is not enough to completely rebuild it so the CPU will have to do for now.

 

 

it is my initial thinking to do so but I do not now if it will work or not, hence this thread.

 

What GPU you have in mind?

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30 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

ok. another ssd will come handy. if not now it will come in the future.

that psu is decent so rx 5700 makes sense.

it will work well with that motherboard, but as i said overclock the cpu too.

how about the 5700 xt?

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3 minutes ago, Game bot 9000 MK III said:

how about the 5700 xt?

without the psu can you afford it. if you can can you afford rtx 2070 super?

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Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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I personally would look at grabbing a new B550 motherboard for around 130 or so and add a 3300x for 120 along with 16 GB of memory and it should still be well within your 500 budget and just recycle your old parts to fill in the gap for now.

That would then open you up to some nice future upgrades down the road.

Edit: In fact if you sell your old CPU, motherboard and ram on ebay you might even be able to buy a new budget graphics card.

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33 minutes ago, kyn1972 said:

I personally would look at grabbing a new B550 motherboard for around 130 or so and add a 3300x for 120 along with 16 GB of memory and it should still be well within your 500 budget and just recycle your old parts to fill in the gap for now.

That would then open you up to some nice future upgrades down the road.

Edit: In fact if you sell your old CPU, motherboard and ram on ebay you might even be able to buy a new budget graphics card.

you mean I keep the GTX970?

 

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37 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

without the psu can you afford it. if you can can you afford rtx 2070 super?

5700XT is around 400 to 450 USD now. I think I can afford it.

 

as for the RTX2070 super, I do not trust team green after the GTX970 debacle. After the VRAM gate (I am one of the victims) anything from nvidia that has the "70" in its name makes me think it is just a neutered "80" card, which does not sit well with me. So for team green, either I buy their top model or not buy from them at all.

 

What can I say, cheating your customers is the worst thing to do.

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1 hour ago, Game bot 9000 MK III said:

it is my initial thinking to do so but I do not now if it will work or not, hence this thread.

 

What GPU you have in mind?

If 60fps is enough in the long run then a 2060S/5700 should last you till the upcoming generation of cards are replaced by something newer (3 years at least, likely more). Top of the budget you can get will be the 2070S (really tight) and 5700XT, latter is honestly not much better than a well cooled 5700 with proper tuning.

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46 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

5700XT, latter is honestly not much better than a well cooled 5700 with proper tuning.

True, with the modded bios, it performs almost similar to 5700xt.

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based on the feedback I received so far, I my choice might be to overclock my existing CPU and buying either RX5700 or RX5700 XT.

 

I really can use some advice here. 

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10 hours ago, Game bot 9000 MK III said:

you mean I keep the GTX970?

 

It's up to you of course but yes it's what I might do if my budget was restricted at the time.

Then like I said you could look at selling the old parts to raise some cash for a new video card.

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5 hours ago, kyn1972 said:

It's up to you of course but yes it's what I might do if my budget was restricted at the time.

Then like I said you could look at selling the old parts to raise some cash for a new video card.

hmmm, this is kinda the opposite of all other suggestions, please elaborate more and help me understand your point of view. Are you saying that my motherboard and CPU are the reason I am having bad gaming experience in 1080p not the GTX970?

 

thank you for suggesting something different, I am not tech-savvy and I need to look it this issue from all possible angles. 

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19 hours ago, Game bot 9000 MK III said:

Budget (including currency): less than 500 USD (may push it further to meet my goal)

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I want a very solid 1080p gaming only. no streaming, no content creation, only gaming)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

I want to upgrade my current system, it is not cutting it for my anymore. Most games I play are choppy with unbearable tearing with medium to low sittings. The system I have consist of:

1- Motherboard MSI Z97m (micro ATX)

2- CPU i5-4690K water cooled with Corsair H100i 240 mm cooler.

3- RAM 16 GB G.skill Rib-jaws DDR3 (not sure about memory speed).

4- and the horrible GTX-970.

5- I am not happy with my monitor it is a 21:9 LG unit. I think it ruins performance as there are more pixels to render without real advantage in gaming, also not all games looks good in 21:9 aspect ratio. I may keep it for now but if the price is right may upgrade to 16:9 that have g-sync or free-sync (this item is outside the 500 USD budget) let me hear your suggestions.

6- my PSU is Cooler Master v750 80+ gold

7- my storage is crucial SSD 446 GB.

8- please do not recommend any other peripherals

 

since this is an upgrade not a new system build and I will be mixing new and very old parts to save money, then the most important thing here is compatibility. I was thinking to upgrade the graphics card only but I do not know if that will work with my old motherboard or if it will be bottle-necked by my CPU. At the end, I want to have an outstanding 1080p gaming experience playing any AAA titles.

id actually reccomend a mobo/cpu/ram upgrade. sell the water cooler, its not needed, the 970 is still a pretty good card(equal to 1050ti if i remember right) and that can run assassin's creed unity pretty well.

stuff is cool. stuff that has fancy lighting is cooler. stuff that has fancy lighting and works is the coolest.

 

i game so i know a bit abt gaming tech, not much abt professional tech.

 

writing this as i finish a 3 hour D2 sesh so excuse anything wrong.

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Alright, there have been a development, thing improved a little and it is not terrible gaming experience anymore, It is not good either but I can live with that. here is what I have done:

 

1- I overclocked my CPU, managed to push it to 4.5 GHz at 1.31v (from 3.5 Ghz stock)

2- while I am in the bios I noticed my RAM clock speed is 1600 MHz, I was sure it is not what I bought in 2016, took a look at the memory sticks and confirmed that clock speed is 2133 MHz, So I watched a couple of video about that and quickly learned about XMP profiles, enabled that and now my RAM is running at 2133 MHz. cool.

3- I did one more thing. since I am convinced that gaming on 21:9 is too much to ask from my computer, so I went through NVIDIA control panel and changed sittings so that my computer sees my 21:9 monitor as if it was 16:9 (now I have black bars all the time). and GPU scaling override game scaling ...

 

The screen tearing is gone, I barely see it, and I am running games at high video sittings.

 

Given what I have done and the results from that, would you recommend any thing different, I still have 500 USD (may push it to 800) that I wish to spend to have better gaming experience but I do not know what should I spend it on.

 

hint hint; the future of X570 chipset looks promising, how about that?

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On 5/26/2020 at 12:47 PM, ketchupspill said:

id actually reccomend a mobo/cpu/ram upgrade. sell the water cooler, its not needed, the 970 is still a pretty good card(equal to 1050ti if i remember right) and that can run assassin's creed unity pretty well.

thanks for your advice, do you still recommend that same after the changes I have done.

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