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Any tips on getting to new tech before the flippers?

Looking at the new ryzen CPUs and I dont want to be stuck with a situation like the 1600af.

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4 minutes ago, lostsublimity said:

Looking at the new ryzen CPUs and I dont want to be stuck with a situation like the 1600af.

The 1600af was a one off, the new Ryzen CPUs will cover a half dozen chips.  It's a full release, so look at the 3xxx series release to judge.

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9 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

The 1600af was a one off, the new Ryzen CPUs will cover a half dozen chips.  It's a full release, so look at the 3xxx series release to judge.

That makes me feel better, thank you.

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On 5/22/2020 at 3:43 PM, lostsublimity said:

Looking at the new ryzen CPUs and I dont want to be stuck with a situation like the 1600af.

What do you mean by "stuck with a situation like the 1600af"?

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On 5/22/2020 at 9:43 AM, lostsublimity said:

Looking at the new ryzen CPUs and I dont want to be stuck with a situation like the 1600af.

Lawyers, Guns and Money

Usually the solutions that works well for me 🤪

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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On 5/22/2020 at 6:43 AM, lostsublimity said:

Looking at the new ryzen CPUs and I dont want to be stuck with a situation like the 1600af.

Scalpers are scum.

 

The big take-away from what happened with the high end Ryzen 3xxx parts is that AMD under-estimated demand/underestimated how long it would take for Intel to come out with a 7nm part of their own. Because believe me, if Intel had a 7nm part right now, it would likely would make the Ryzen 3xxx parts look not as performative. Also keep in mind that the Ryzen 3xxx parts that have the Radeon iGPU are 12nm parts. So look at the performance gap between those and the high end parts. Likewise the chipsets are NOT on 7nm. So AMD has some room to improve.

 

14nm to 7nm allows a 4x increase in transistor density, so if Intel did the exact same chiplet design AMD did, Intel likely could put a 40-core CPU into the same space as a 10-core.

 

The problem with trying to sell a CPU with >8 cores is that nothing out there but specialty software will use more than 8 cores, and your average game only uses one, because middleware would prefer fake-threading like co-routines from 1991 over true multi-core threading. So all those tabs in your web browser are separate copies of the web browser, wasting gobs of memory just so you can run them on separate cpu cores, sandboxing each tab from each other in case they crash themselves (crash the main browser window and it's game-over though.)

 

Fundamentally, outside the web browser context, most other software simply doesn't use more than one thread because software developers believe it's too hard to use threads in any appreciable manner. So there's no threading support at all in the popular scripting languages like Python and Javascript, and if any threads are invoked, they're primarily outside the space the script can touch.

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