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I3 9100f and Rx 560 4gb Bottleneck?

Rockatjov
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Good morning everyone, I want to upgrade my computer in a few weeks, and I was thinking of buying an intel i3 9100f processor and associate it with the Gigabyte Ga-B365M DS3H and 16gb (8x2) Hyperx Fury Ram with 2666 mhz motherboard, as a video card I have already a 4gb Rx 560. I wanted to know if with this build I could have bottleneck problems between the cpu and the gpu. Thanks in advance for your reply ^ _ ^

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ryzen 3 3100 or 3300x beat the i3 9100f by miles. what is your budget and country for the pc?

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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1 minute ago, Rockatjov said:

9100f processor and associate it with the Gigabyte B450M DS3H

The cpu is LGA but the mobo is pga 

Is this a typo ?

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

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2 minutes ago, Rockatjov said:

Good morning everyone, I want to upgrade my computer in a few weeks, and I was thinking of buying an intel i3 9100f processor and associate it with the Gigabyte B450M DS3H and 16gb (8x2) Hyperx Fury Ram with 2666 mhz motherboard, as a video card I have already a 4gb Rx 560. I wanted to know if with this build I could have bottleneck problems between the cpu and the gpu. Thanks in advance for your reply ^ _ ^

The 9100(f) wouldn't even work with that motherboard.

 

A 330X + that board + 16GB + RX 580 (second hand if you can't find a good deal new) makes a lot more sense.

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2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

ryzen 3 3100 or 3300x beat the i3 9100f by miles. what is your budget and country for the pc?

 

I have a budget of 300 euros because I live in Italy, I had seen the Ryzen 5 1600af but it costs too much for my budget, however I had seen the Ryzen 3 3200g but I saw the benchmarks compared to the i3 9100f and I think it is more performing
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1 minute ago, Rockatjov said:

 


I have a budget of 300 euros because I live in Italy, I had seen the Ryzen 5 1600af but it costs too much for my budget, however I had seen the Ryzen 3 3200g but I saw the benchmarks compared to the i3 9100f and I think it is more performing

have you considered buying used or refurbished? you'll get a lot more power for your cash.

 

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3 minutes ago, Rockatjov said:

that motherboard will work, but it's not that great... I can't speak Italian so I can't find a better board for you. Are there others at a similar price because I think you should be able to get a better deal.

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1 minute ago, Mad153 said:

have you considered buying used or refurbished? you'll get a lot more power for your cash.

 

Yes I considered it but in my region there are many people who cheat or scam and therefore i prefer to buy from amazon and stay safe with new components, mostly the 3100 is no longer on amazon and the 1600af costs too much for me, also I had seen the 3200g but I have seen that the 9100f is more powerful than that, and costs less.
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1 minute ago, Mad153 said:

that motherboard will work, but it's not that great... I can't speak Italian so I can't find a better board for you. Are there others at a similar price because I think you should be able to get a better deal.

I've seen other but this have a lot of good reviews and i've seen that most of the people use it for the 9100f build

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€144.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€76.15 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€81.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €302.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 11:29 CEST+0200

 

Something like this for 300€?

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try this: 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor €144.00 @ Amazon Italia
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €76.15 @ Amazon Italia
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €83.00 @ Amazon Italia
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €303.15
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 11:29 CEST+0200  

 

 

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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guys his spec is about 75 less:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor €79.98 @ Amazon Italia
Motherboard Gigabyte B365M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €75.91 @ Amazon Italia
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €70.31 @ Amazon Italia
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €226.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 11:33 CEST+0200  

 

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4 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

try this: 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor €144.00 @ Amazon Italia
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard €76.15 @ Amazon Italia
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €83.00 @ Amazon Italia
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €303.15
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-21 11:29 CEST+0200  

 

 

Ehm sorry my mistake that I have not specified, I should also buy a power supply that I already have in mind and it is an Evga 450w and it costs about 50 euros and with these builds I would overstep
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I think that paying the 75 extra, @Rockatjov would help a lot, but if you don't have the money, intel is better here.

but also consider that buying ryzen allows you to upgrade further along the line, while you cannot upgrade with intel anymore.

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ignore this sorry, double post 

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1 minute ago, Rockatjov said:

Ehm sorry my mistake that I have not specified, I should also buy a power supply that I already have in mind and it is an Evga 450w and it costs about 50 euros and with these builds I would overstep

Get a cx450 it's so much better and doesn't cost a whole lot more

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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Just now, Mad153 said:

I think that paying the 75 extra, @Rockatjov would help a lot, but if you don't have the money, intel is better here.

but also consider that buying ryzen allows you to upgrade further along the line, while you cannot upgrade with intel anymore.

 

Yes I am aware of it but in this period I don't have much money to spend and I would like to upgrade anyway, also because I don't have many pretensions to play. So the question was i have bottleneck if i build the i3 9100f with the rx 560 4gb? That i already have

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Yes I am aware of it but in this period I don't have much money to spend and I would like to upgrade anyway, also because I don't have many pretensions to play. So the question was i have bottleneck if i build the i3 9100f with the rx 560 4gb? That i already have

I think you would have a small CPU bottleneck yes. It doesn't mean anything though

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1 minute ago, Rockatjov said:

So the question was i have bottleneck if i build the i3 9100f with the rx 560 4gb? That i already have

Nope, but im concerned in regards to the PSU.

 

 https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/wsvbt6/xilence-performance-a-430w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-xn060

 

At the very least get this one

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Just now, Mad153 said:

I think you would have a small CPU bottleneck yes. It doesn't mean anything though

 

I understand, thank you very much everyone for the answers :D

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