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B450 Tomahawk Max with 3600MHz?

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2 minutes ago, dejans said:

 

What would you suggest? 

3200MHz CL16 or 3600MHz CL17 for the same price.

3600 C17 for sure. At worst you just select 3200MHz and run it at that. The cost is the same anyways

Hi,

 

I was building my Ryzen 7 3700x PC and I'm stuck in picking the right RAM.

My motherboard will be B450 Tomahawk Max, but does it support 3600MHz RAM? I saw that this motherboard supports up to 4000+ MHz, but I found on some sites that 3600 is not one of allowed frequencies.

 

What will happen if I put 3600 in there?

My current options are 3200MHz CL16 and 3600MHz CL17/CL18, so I wanted the 3600MHz more than 3200MHz.

 

 

Best regards

 

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The processor supports up to 3200mt/s

The board yes can support higher rated memory.

Your fight will be with the memory controller more so that anything.

 

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The BIOS lets you choose something like 4266 at least, and I have seen this board run 3600.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Now that AMD has droped support for B450/X470 with Ryzen 4000, are you sure you want a B450 board? Some X570 board would allow you to upgrade to the next Ryzen.

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7 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Now that AMD has droped support for B450/X470 with Ryzen 4000, are you sure you want a B450 board? Some X570 board would allow you to upgrade to the next Ryzen.

Yes, but the prices for x570 are double the price of B450 (I know, for a reason). But I don't plan on upgrading CPU in near future, so I think B450 will be fine. X570 will probably drop the price to current B450 level by the time I need it.

 

21 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The BIOS lets you choose something like 4266 at least, and I have seen this board run 3600.

Ok, so I should have no problems? Thanks!

 

24 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The processor supports up to 3200mt/s

The board yes can support higher rated memory.

Your fight will be with the memory controller more so that anything.

 

Are you sure about this? I saw many reviews suggesting to go for 3600MHz...

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Just now, dejans said:

Are you sure about this? I saw many reviews suggesting to go for 3600MHz...

beyond 3200MHz is considered an overclock and success is not guaranteed by AMD nor the board vendor. You could still try it

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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41 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

beyond 3200MHz is considered an overclock and success is not guaranteed by AMD nor the board vendor. You could still try it

 

1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The processor supports up to 3200mt/s

The board yes can support higher rated memory.

Your fight will be with the memory controller more so that anything.

 

What would you suggest? 

3200MHz CL16 or 3600MHz CL17 for the same price.

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2 minutes ago, dejans said:

 

What would you suggest? 

3200MHz CL16 or 3600MHz CL17 for the same price.

3600 C17 for sure. At worst you just select 3200MHz and run it at that. The cost is the same anyways

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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26 minutes ago, dejans said:

 

What would you suggest? 

3200MHz CL16 or 3600MHz CL17 for the same price.

Watch this. Choose something Buildzoid recommends.

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I have 3600 "b" die CL14 that is running at 3800 on my Tomahawk board.

Case: Thermaltake Core X-5.CPU:  AMD Ryzen9 5950x . CPU Cooler: Noctua DH-15 Chromax Black. Motherboard: MSI Tomahawk X570. Memory: 32 gigs of DDR4 3600 G-Skill “B” die. Timings @ 14-15-15-15-35.Graphics = Sapphire 6900XT. Main Drive = Sabrent Rocket Plus 4, m.2. Storage Drive = 8 tb Seagate Barracuda. PSU = EVGA SuperNova 850 watt. OS: Windows 10 Professional 64. Monitor: AOC AGON AG322QCX 31.5" Curved screen. 2560x1440 @ 144 mhz. Sound System: Logitech Z-5300 5.1 (bought new by me in 2003). Mouse: Razr. Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Blue led. Printer: HP Envy 5660.Desk: 96” x 30” butcher block on rusted and clear-coated 2”x2” legs, built by owner.

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3 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Watch this. Choose something Buildzoid recommends.

So, my final discovers are:

2x8GB 3600MHz CL18 b-die but max 2 DIMM slots

2x8GB 3600MHz CL17 not b-die, but max 4 DIMM slots

Which one should be better?

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