Ryzen 9 3900x Overheating A LOT

[Silascrft]

Soooo...

i have this problem that my Ryzen 9 3900x is overheating a lot. Just after booting it up it’s at around 75 degrees. So I have about 5 minutes until it reaches 90+ (it went as far as 100) and shuts down. 
 

I have an aio from Corsair, the h115i and it did it’s job good. When this problem started to be a thing I went and checked temps in the Corsair iCue software and it was around 50. The bios tho said it was way higher at about 80 and up.

After a bios corruption due to shutdown while updating it I had a corrupted bios. I managed to repair it and i now have the latest bios and the same problem. 
I don’t know what to do anymore it’s really frustrating tbh. I can only imagine it being something with voltage or something so stupid I don’t even bothered to think about. 

 

I have:

Ryzen 9 3900x

ROG x570 Gaming e

Gtx 970

24gb 3200ghz vengeance 

 

plz help

[Aniallation]

Is the pump running? Thermal paste good?

[SpookyCitrus]

Sounds like a bad pump, or it's not seated correctly. The three main things to consider with an AIO when it's not working as intended is if the pump is out, it's not seated correctly, or if the rad is clogged up with dust. I would check to make sure it's seated correctly, and dust it out. If it's still having the issue it's most likely an issue with the pump and if that's the case it will need to be replaced. Also make sure to check the pump cable is plugged into the motherboard int he CPU Fan or AIO PUMP header on the motherboard, and not just a random fan header.

[DailyProcrastinator]

17 minutes ago, Silascrft said:

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What are your voltages like? 3rd gen Ryzen is not a fan of higher voltages and even by default your motherboard could have them cranked, my Ssus board had my CPU voltage hitting 1.4V, not good for Zen 2 CPU's.

 

Also do not bother with iCue for temp reading. I would use something like HardwareInfo.

[Silascrft]

6 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Sounds like a bad pump, or it's not seated correctly. The three main things to consider with an AIO when it's not working as intended is if the pump is out, it's not seated correctly, or if the rad is clogged up with dust. I would check to make sure it's seated correctly, and dust it out. If it's still having the issue it's most likely an issue with the pump and if that's the case it will need to be replaced. Also make sure to check the pump cable is plugged into the motherboard int he CPU Fan or AIO PUMP header on the motherboard, and not just a random fan header.

Well, i just switched my entire system from my i7 6700k and i did not encounter any of these problems on that combination. The radiator is clean and thermalpaste is applied. It might still be the pump as I'm shure the ryzen will produce more heat as my Intel cpu.

I will try to put the standard wraith prism thing on. If that cools it

 more I guess I have one answer.

 

[Silascrft]

2 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

What are your voltages like? 3rd gen Ryzen is not a fan of higher voltages and even by default your motherboard could have them cranked, my Ssus board had my CPU voltage hitting 1.4V, not good for Zen 2 CPU's.

 

Also do not bother with iCue for temp reading. I would use something like HardwareInfo.

Yeah.. the voltages are jumping. I remember it jumping from .9 or something low like that up to 1.4. I dont really know how to describe it tbh. But it shure looks wrong. I will have to search how to set it and what to set it to I guess. I was just checking in the iCue software ro see if it might tell me the liquid temps. HWMonitor and the bios both said 85+ degrees.  Btw i cant boot atm because its giving me a cpu overtemp. Warning. 

[Dravinian]

Touch the pipes on the AIO.

 

The line running out of my CPU (a 3900x) is actually warm, while the pipe running to the CPU is not warm at all (you can touch both as a comparison).

 

This will let you know whether liquid is actually travelling between the AIO and the CPU.

 

Could be not enough paste, not seated properly if the pump is working.  I have a H100i and while folding my temps are about 74c even with the pump running.  Bear in mind that is 24 cores running 100% while folding...

 

I did also notice that this CPU pushes out significant heat, I had Ryzen Master up, and that thing would spike to the 70+ range simply by opening a program...it would drop again, to 40-45c when idle, but asking it to do almost anything at all and it just generates a huge amount of heat.

[Guest]

Ditch hwmonitor firstly.

 

Dl and use hwinfo64.

 

This cpu is twice the density as your old system. Its going to be hotter as a result. If it where the same thread count, would be much cooler.

 

H10xx whatever (i) just is so sub par, there's air coolers that do just as well.

 

Lastly, that rig should be throttling at 95c but everything needs to be at auto. 115c is thermtrip temp. 

 

Try yout best not to stress test this until you've gotten the cooling issue sorted out. 

 

Good Luck and have fun!!

 

 

[Silascrft]

8 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Ditch hwmonitor firstly.

 

Dl and use hwinfo64.

 

This cpu is twice the density as your old system. Its going to be hotter as a result. If it where the same thread count, would be much cooler.

 

H10xx whatever (i) just is so sub par, there's air coolers that do just as well.

 

Lastly, that rig should be throttling at 95c but everything needs to be at auto. 115c is thermtrip temp. 

 

Try yout best not to stress test this until you've gotten the cooling issue sorted out. 

 

Good Luck and have fun!!

 

 

Thanks, and no worries of me stress Testing this thing right now. It goes to 95c withing 1 min making booting not possible. I.will continue and try my best.

[Guest]

Just now, Silascrft said:

Thanks, and no worries of me stress Testing this thing right now. It goes to 95c withing 1 min making booting not possible. I.will continue and try my best.

I would really double check the cooler mounting. It must be tight. 

If you grab the water block and it moves easily without much force, thats not a tight enough mount. 

 

Youll be ok. Just gotta check the cooler pump and mounting pressure.

[DailyProcrastinator]

16 minutes ago, Silascrft said:

Yeah.. the voltages are jumping. I remember it jumping from .9 or something low like that up to 1.4. I dont really know how to describe it tbh. But it shure looks wrong. I will have to search how to set it and what to set it to I guess. I was just checking in the iCue software ro see if it might tell me the liquid temps. HWMonitor and the bios both said 85+ degrees.  Btw i cant boot atm because its giving me a cpu overtemp. Warning. 

Wait for it to cool down then check.

 

I personally recommend manually setting CPU voltage and memory speed, Asus motherboards love to set high voltages at stock.

For safe operation I highly recommend the following:

-          Leaving Asus’s EZ-Tuning Utility to ‘Normal’
-          Then in Extreme Tweaker settings leave all CPU settings to Auto.
-          Set RAM to its rated speed. (IE set a 3200MHz kit to 3200MHz)
Voltages:
-          CPU Core Voltage – Manual Mode – 1.2500V (offset mode if you want to get into more fine tuning)
-          CPU SOC Voltage – Manual Mode – VDDSOC 1.1000V
-          DRAM Voltage – 1.3500V
-          1.8V PLL Voltage – 1.8000V
-          1.05V SB Voltage – 1.0500V

 

In my case some of these voltages were all set very high at stock, not sure why Asus does so. For safe stock operations this is recommended. 3rd gen Ryzen performs best under cool temps, so lowering the voltage to 1.2500V is safe and best for long term use.

I have improved system stability and overall performance while lowering temps with my R7 3800x following this method. And my CPU can now sustain max boost speed for longer because of the lower temps.

 

Good read on voltage issues with the new Ryzen CPU’s: (And why I recommend low voltage)

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/ejd5c9/1325v_is_not_safe_for_zen_2/

 

 

All this info comes from tirelessly scouring many many resources and doing lots of research after learning of the high voltage issues with 3rd gen Ryzen.

 

Make sure you also verify that your CPU cooler is actually working and that you have a good thermal paste application. 

[Dravinian]

Added a fan to mine after this and with a bit of air movement, temps are down to 70c with a H100i.

 

I am leaving heavily towards pump not working or not seated properly too.  It should be sufficient to keep it under control at idle easily.

 

Also do you have Ryzen Master installed? I think it does a job similar to that of HWINFO

[Dravinian]

17 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Wait for it to cool down then check.

 

I personally recommend manually setting CPU voltage and memory speed, Asus motherboards love to set high voltages at stock.

For safe operation I highly recommend the following:

-          Leaving Asus’s EZ-Tuning Utility to ‘Normal’
-          Then in Extreme Tweaker settings leave all CPU settings to Auto.
-          Set RAM to its rated speed. (IE set a 3200MHz kit to 3200MHz)
Voltages:
-          CPU Core Voltage – Manual Mode – 1.2500V (offset mode if you want to get into more fine tuning)
-          CPU SOC Voltage – Manual Mode – VDDSOC 1.1000V
-          DRAM Voltage – 1.3500V
-          1.8V PLL Voltage – 1.8000V
-          1.05V SB Voltage – 1.0500V

My core voltage was set at 1.45v  I couldn't change it, despite putting it into manual mode, the most I could do was change the offset from a + to a - there was no option to change an amount.

 

Ryzen master is now recording my Core Voltage - Peak and Average at 1.0999v

 

What I have noticed in Ryzen Master is that under PPT (Total socket power when hovered over) it was 100% of 142w....now it reads 36% of 356w....I don't know what changed that, it wasn't me.

 

The TDC  and EDC both appear to have changed to 255 A as well..

 

Bear in mind, I do not know what any of this means.

 

Temps appear much the same with 24 cores under 100% load.

[Silascrft]

I have now installed the in theory way worse standard prism wraith cooler and....

  The temps. are totally fine now. 

It's at 54c again. I guess I'll have to look for a new cooler now cuz I dont thing that I will keep on runnig long with that thing but it ll' work for now.

Thanks for everyone giving me their ideas and time for my problem. I appreciate all of you, thanks.

[SpookyCitrus]

42 minutes ago, Silascrft said:

I have now installed the in theory way worse standard prism wraith cooler and....

  The temps. are totally fine now. 

It's at 54c again. I guess I'll have to look for a new cooler now cuz I dont thing that I will keep on runnig long with that thing but it ll' work for now.

Thanks for everyone giving me their ideas and time for my problem. I appreciate all of you, thanks.

More than likely the AIO had a bad pump, if it's the one you have been using since your original build you upgraded from it's highly possible. The Noctua NH-D15 or the Dark Rock Pro 4 are my go to air coolers for the more high end/high heat output processors.

[Dravinian]

For anyone that happens across my post on voltage changes.

 

You have to just type in the number, I thought you had to click on the box, which you can't do, but if you just type in what you want you will change the voltage that way....

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, Dravinian said:

For anyone that happens across my post on voltage changes.

 

You have to just type in the number, I thought you had to click on the box, which you can't do, but if you just type in what you want you will change the voltage that way....

I think you can use the + and - key on the key pad as well.

[Dravinian]

2 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I think you can use the + and - key on the key pad as well.

I did try that it didn't work for me, but I could have been in the wrong place at the time.