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i want to buy me a beyerdynamic dt990pro with 250 ohm but im not sure that my motherboard can power it enough. My motherboard is the ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING with the:
 
ROG SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A
- Dual OP Amplifiers
- Impedance sense for front and rear headphone outputs
- Supports : Jack-detection, Multi-streaming, Front Panel Jack-retasking
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- SupremeFX Shielding Technology
- Supports up to 32-Bit/192kHz playback *5 Audio Feature :
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It might power it, but you won't get any proper volume out of it. If you are buying such high-end headphones, it would be wise to get a proper AMP as well. Especially when spending that much money, it's really a no-brainer. Onboard audio chips are not good compared to proper (external) amps.

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ok but the motherboard should power the 80 ohm version enough, right?

 

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On 5/8/2020 at 5:17 PM, Trydex said:

ok but the motherboard should power the 80 ohm version enough, right?

 

80 ohms take even more power  when it comes to headphones the higher the Ohms the less power they take

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10 minutes ago, RAID_BOMB said:

80 ohms take even more power ;) when it comes to headphones the higher the Ohms the less power they take

That's very incorrect

On 5/9/2020 at 1:17 AM, Trydex said:

ok but the motherboard should power the 80 ohm version enough, right?

Maybe a motherboard can handle 80 ohm but certainly not 250 at any decent volume
Really you should be using a headphone amp if you want to use high powered Beyers, the Behringer MA400 is just about the cheapest option available.

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On 5/8/2020 at 11:17 AM, Trydex said:

ok but the motherboard should power the 80 ohm version enough, right?

 

The 80 ohm yes but which Beyer are you considering? Cause for most of them I generally don't reccomend the lower than 250 ohm models. For the 770 you have the custom pro plus as well as the custom studios which are better lower impedance versions of you want and open back consider the Beyerdynamic tygr instead I have yet to hear it myself due to covid but from what I've been hearing it's pretty great.

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20 hours ago, The Flying Sloth said:

That's very incorrect

 

Oh sry i got confused for a second, the 250 Ohms have lower volume then the 80Ohms in most cases but still take a lot of power! As stated in the Beyerdynamic description, if you want to plug them into your phone, you should consider using 32Ohms (Mainboards usually are a bit stronger when it comes to audio signal strengh, but not by a lot, at least on the mainboards i have used)

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You guys are all wrong. My ALC1220 on my gigabyte aorus pro wifi can power my headphones which are the dt 990s which have 250 ohm. I have no problem with them. Even audiophiles recommend this realtek onboard dac because there is almost no difference only that the volume differs just a bit. I have my windows set to 50% and that is almost too loud for me. So you can actually drive headphones on that audio dac/amp on that motherboard.

And the supremeFX and alc1220 can go up to 600 ohms and still have good volume! Get the dt 990s they sound really good. Especially if you EQ them with the built in thing when you plug them in.

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This is my EQ btw. And yes there are more softwares out there that can have a more in-depth EQ. But this works really well.42441487_Skrmklipp.PNG.b4aef888f60faf9f9a799a9856a97b83.PNG

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DT 990 pro 250ohm W/Straight cable and Dekoni Elite Velour Pads 

Soundblaster AE-9 Soundcard

The T.bone SC400 XLR mic

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Keyboard > Razer Chroma v2 Orange Switches

Mouse > Cooler Master MM711, had a G502 HERO but was too heavy for my liking.

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You're going to have to check the voltage on the headphone output to get an idea of whether you will have volume problems. The best thing to do is to just get the headphones and then try them with a variety of content. If you then have volume problems, you will know with certainty that you need a headphone amp.

 

But also, the asus software might have gain settings which allow for even higher power output from the motherboard.

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I apologise for my earlier response it seems the ALC1220 is capable of powering 250 ohm headphones at a reasonable (not great) level, see, just about every other inbuilt audio chip is not so the blanket answer is always that onboard can't power 250ohm headphones but consider this...

 

Output power isn't the only thing that matters when using high impedance headphones, amplification quality can become a big deal and with the onboard audio susceptible to EMF as well as all sorts of dirty power issues and substandard component quality (compared to external solutions) it wouldn't be a stretch to say that even if you could power them from the motherboard most people wouldn't want to. I personally don't use onboard audio for anything and haven't touched it in quite a few years because of the quality improvements I noticed as well as the ability to completely ignore driver and compatibility issues.

 

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Efficiency also matters.

 

My T70s are 250 ohm and are pretty easy to drive.

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Hey so I I just wanted to chime in here as I have DT 770 Pros and DT 990 Pros at 250ohms and I also have the Asus B450-F. The short answer is without a doubt yes you will get enjoyable volume with both of them(even though you're just asking about the DT990's). When you plug the Headphones the sonic suite will open and set the amp impedance to extreme automatically. 

Games I usually play all the time are BF4, CSGO, The Division 2. Metro Exodus is also great. One game i've found that could use some extra volume is RE2 on the DT990's however the DT770's with the closed back have no problem. 

Both of them play music just fine and I listen to a lot of different types of music. Deftones - Rosemary, The Doors - Riders On The Storm, DJ Blyatman - Babushka, Andre Rieu - The Waltz Goes On. All these genres play just fine and id dare say if there was any extra volume you could squeeze out you would probably start hurting your ears. The DT770's actually hurt my ears during long music listening sessions so there is that. 

Pick the 990 Pros up and if you want to add an AMP later then by all means go for it. You won't be disappointed. 

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i have a dt 990 pro 250ohm and my lg v20 drives it just fine. id get hearing damage if i listen to them above 60% so im guessing they are more efficient than other 250 ohm headphones so its not that bad 

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I've been looking at this thread for a couple days now.

As a DT-990 250 Ohm user, I can say they easily have enough volume for me. I used to have them plugged into my motherboard, now into my monitor's 3.5mm.

Windows is at 40% volume and YouTube is typically between 50-100% volume.

 

Volume is not a reason to get a different AMP/DAC solution, but maybe a different sound signature is.

But then again, I personally only use YouTube, so it's not like there is much quality in audio lost there. Maybe people who listen to FLACs all day will hear a difference.

 

P.S. on my phone (which is pretty basic), I have to crank the volume to about 90% for normal volume, so some devices will have more of an issue with driving these

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4 hours ago, minibois said:

I've been looking at this thread for a couple days now.

As a DT-990 250 Ohm user, I can say they easily have enough volume for me. I used to have them plugged into my motherboard, now into my monitor's 3.5mm.

Windows is at 40% volume and YouTube is typically between 50-100% volume.

 

Volume is not a reason to get a different AMP/DAC solution, but maybe a different sound signature is.

But then again, I personally only use YouTube, so it's not like there is much quality in audio lost there. Maybe people who listen to FLACs all day will hear a difference.

 

P.S. on my phone (which is pretty basic), I have to crank the volume to about 90% for normal volume, so some devices will have more of an issue with driving these

Yeah I don't know why People recommend amp and dacs for People that have this onboard audio. It works really good. People are like "You need an  externa amp for these otherwise they Will sound really quiet." like what!?! 

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DT 990 pro 250ohm W/Straight cable and Dekoni Elite Velour Pads 

Soundblaster AE-9 Soundcard

The T.bone SC400 XLR mic

Other peripherals

Keyboard > Razer Chroma v2 Orange Switches

Mouse > Cooler Master MM711, had a G502 HERO but was too heavy for my liking.

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On 5/13/2020 at 3:51 PM, Tigerleon said:

You guys are all wrong. My ALC1220 on my gigabyte aorus pro wifi can power my headphones which are the dt 990s which have 250 ohm. I have no problem with them. Even audiophiles recommend this realtek onboard dac because there is almost no difference only that the volume differs just a bit. I have my windows set to 50% and that is almost too loud for me. So you can actually drive headphones on that audio dac/amp on that motherboard.

And the supremeFX and alc1220 can go up to 600 ohms and still have good volume! Get the dt 990s they sound really good. Especially if you EQ them with the built in thing when you plug them in.

Which motherboard do you have exactly?

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On 5/14/2020 at 7:09 PM, spartaman64 said:

i have a dt 990 pro 250ohm and my lg v20 drives it just fine. id get hearing damage if i listen to them above 60% so im guessing they are more efficient than other 250 ohm headphones so its not that bad 

Not really, your LG V20 has a pretty dam good amp/dac. My DT880/770 are not really efficient but my Amiron Home is.

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11 hours ago, CTR640 said:

Which motherboard do you have exactly?

Gigabyte aorus pro wifi. Z390 socket.

PM or DM me if you have any questions about audio or about your PC.

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CPU > Intel core i7 9700k, GPU > RTX 2070 8gb, RAM > Corsair Vengance 2x8gb 3000mhz, Motherboard > Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Pro Wifi, Storage > 1TB HDD & 2pcs of 500gb M2 SSDs, Cooling > H100I Corsair Platinum, PSU > Corsair RM750X V2

🎧Current Audio Setup For Gaming/Music🎧

DT 990 pro 250ohm W/Straight cable and Dekoni Elite Velour Pads 

Soundblaster AE-9 Soundcard

The T.bone SC400 XLR mic

Other peripherals

Keyboard > Razer Chroma v2 Orange Switches

Mouse > Cooler Master MM711, had a G502 HERO but was too heavy for my liking.

Why spend thousands on peripherals and your PC and forget one of the most important things... Audio.

Read this post if you want a "gaming" headset ;)

 

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