Jump to content

rtx 2060 or gtx 1080 for half the cost?

Country: Iran 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: gaming / Cad / coding / modeling /viudeo edditing (very slight amounts) etc

Resolution: 1440p

 

 

so I am building my PC and I am stuck on a decision. See I found a used GTX 1080 (used) for 350$, meanwhile a 6gb rtx 2060 (new) is 437$, and an 8gb is 620$ (yeah prices are insane here).

while the most rational decision would be to get the gtx 1080. but the DLSS 2.0 and the future of these card REALLY intrigues me. I'm paying for them with monthly payments since the store guy knows us well and trusts us. so I can kinda afford both but obviously saving money is always smart. the rtx 2060 with dlss 2.0 gets twice the performance! i mean there's rtx too but it's very lame IMO at it's current state. but I feel like the rtx thing can keep having new features in the future?

I also was intrigued to see if I can use the cores for just coding and using them for deep learning etc (tho i'm a beginner, but I mean i could always read a book and think?)

 

any advice? am I just being irrational?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

gtx 1080 is near rtx 2070 super performance. get the 1080

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

The 1080 is somewhere between the 2060 and 2070/2060S in terms of gaming performance, being closer to the latter in general.

Future games might start leaving Pascal behind, so the 2060 might get closer to the 1080's performance, but the 1080's 8GB of VRAM might be useful at 1440p, as opposed to just 6GB on the 2060.

 

11 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

gtx 1080 is near rtx 2070 super performance

The 1080Ti is close or similar to the 2070S, not so much the regular 1080.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Display: Gigabyte G34WQC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

gtx 1080 is near rtx 2070 super performance. get the 1080

The GTX 1080 is actually a bit behind even the standard RTX 2070. There's a decent gap between the 1080 and 2070 Super.

 

For value, the 1080 definitely performs better than the RTX 2060, so if you're concerned primarily with gaming performance and value, the 1080 wins that bout pretty handily. However, the RTX 2060 does have a feature advantage that you have to weigh yourself. With DLSS 2.0 showing surprisingly strong performance in the few titles that support it, the 2060 could be the option to go with. There's also improved ShadowPlay video capture and Ray Tracing, but if it were me and I had to limit my budget, I'd stick with the 1080.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Suika said:

The GTX 1080 is actually a bit behind even the standard RTX 2070. There's a decent gap between the 1080 and 2070 Super.

 

For value, the 1080 definitely performs better than the RTX 2060, so if you're concerned primarily with gaming performance and value, the 1080 wins that bout pretty handily. However, the RTX 2060 does have a feature advantage that you have to weigh yourself. With DLSS 2.0 showing surprisingly strong performance in the few titles that support it, the 2060 could be the option to go with. There's also improved ShadowPlay video capture and Ray Tracing, but if it were me and I had to limit my budget, I'd stick with the 1080.

The 1080 would perform better in cad, modelling and video tasks too thanks to its raw compute power advantage.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

My opinion, if the 2060 would perform well enough, then it might be worth it for the newer architecture, and features that it comes with. But the 1080 will perform better. 

At me or quote me, I want to hear your opinion.

 

Hopefully anything I say is factually correct. Sorry for any mistakes in advanced.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

29 minutes ago, AmyTheBun said:

Country: Iran 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: gaming / Cad / coding / modeling /viudeo edditing (very slight amounts) etc

Resolution: 1440p

 

 

so I am building my PC and I am stuck on a decision. See I found a used GTX 1080 (used) for 350$, meanwhile a 6gb rtx 2060 (new) is 437$, and an 8gb is 620$ (yeah prices are insane here).

while the most rational decision would be to get the gtx 1080. but the DLSS 2.0 and the future of these card REALLY intrigues me. I'm paying for them with monthly payments since the store guy knows us well and trusts us. so I can kinda afford both but obviously saving money is always smart. the rtx 2060 with dlss 2.0 gets twice the performance! i mean there's rtx too but it's very lame IMO at it's current state. but I feel like the rtx thing can keep having new features in the future?

I also was intrigued to see if I can use the cores for just coding and using them for deep learning etc (tho i'm a beginner, but I mean i could always read a book and think?)

 

any advice? am I just being irrational?

 

The rtx 2060 was built for 1080p.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

damn now i'm confused.

so get the gtx 1080? regardless of the architecture and stuff? I was more hoping nvidia would release more features to boost the RTX sales.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, YT_DomDaBomb20 said:

The rtx 2060 was built for 1080p.

technically might be. but it performs great in 1440p. heck you can get by a gtx 1060 if you are okay with lowering some settings some barely have a visble effect

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

gtx 1080 is near rtx 2070 super performance. get the 1080

what about dlss and future features tho? not worth it?

dlss 2.0 doubles the FPS and supports every game from what i know!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

The 1080 is somewhere between the 2060 and 2070/2060S in terms of gaming performance, being closer to the latter in general.

Future games might start leaving Pascal behind, so the 2060 might get closer to the 1080's performance, but the 1080's 8GB of VRAM might be useful at 1440p, as opposed to just 6GB on the 2060.

 

The 1080Ti is close or similar to the 2070S, not so much the regular 1080.

wait leave pascal behind? what does that mean.. i mean i'll still be able to game on even the oldest of GPU. just slowly right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, AmyTheBun said:

what about dlss and future features tho? not worth it?

dlss 2.0 doubles the FPS and supports every game from what i know!

get the gtx 1080. it wins by raw performance. And no dls doesnt douple the fps and its not supported in all games

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, AmyTheBun said:

what about dlss and future features tho? not worth it?

dlss 2.0 doubles the FPS and supports every game from what i know!

Okay. You are right about dlss  and features, but even if you just needed rtx, the 1080 supports it, just download drivers

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, AmyTheBun said:

wait leave pascal behind?

they wont leave pascal behind

2 minutes ago, AmyTheBun said:

what does that mean.. i mean i'll still be able to game on even the oldest of GPU. just slowly right?

yes you can play but just little less fps

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

thanks all! it worries me that the 1080 is used (second hand) but i'll get that! it's awesome ;3

I'M SO HYPED

but so scared 😧 used stuff are so scaryy

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, AmyTheBun said:

wait leave pascal behind? what does that mean.. i mean i'll still be able to game on even the oldest of GPU. just slowly right?

Of course you'll still be able to play, it's just that developers might worry more about optimising for Turing than for Pascal after a certain time period.

 

18 minutes ago, AmyTheBun said:

but so scared 😧 used stuff are so scaryy

If it's been used normally, as in not for mining 24/7 while also being overclocked etc., then there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Display: Gigabyte G34WQC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Of course you'll still be able to play, it's just that developers might worry more about optimising for Turing than for Pascal after a certain time period.

 

If it's been used normally, as in not for mining 24/7 while also being overclocked etc., then there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

my dad who barely knows the seller just told me.... he used to be into mining and recently abandonded it. the timing is toooooo suspious >.< i still could buy it from another person.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Just now, AmyTheBun said:

my dad who barely knows the seller just told me.... he used to be into mining and recently abandonded it. the timing is toooooo suspious >.< i still could buy it from another person.

Depends how much he used it for mining. Generally it should be alright, a few years back I used to mine a fair bit with an R9 290 and still works to this day. Unless it's been used heavily 24/7 I reckon it should be fine.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Display: Gigabyte G34WQC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Look into a EVGA 2060 KO  - the one that has the 2080 neutered chip

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

26 minutes ago, Dirtnapper said:

Look into a EVGA 2060 KO  - the one that has the 2080 neutered chip

what does that mean?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

What about used 2060/2060S/2070/2070S?

The GTX 1080 seems like the better deal here. Nvidia doesn't really improve as much driver optimization as AMD does.

Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB

            CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X          Case: Antec P8     PSU: Corsair RM850x                        Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM

            Drives: Samsung 970 EVO plus 250GB, Micron 1100 2TB, Seagate ST4000DM000/1F2168 GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti Black edition

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, AmyTheBun said:

I also was intrigued to see if I can use the cores for just coding and using them for deep learning etc (tho i'm a beginner, but I mean i could always read a book and think?)

 

any advice? am I just being irrational?

 

If you're looking into DL and 3d modeling (specially if you're using blender), the 2060 performs way better, as long as 6gb of vram is enough for you (most modern models won't do with anything less than 8gb, and even so isn't enough sometimes). The 2060 also has the advantage of the warranty since you're buying new.

FX6300 @ 4.2GHz | Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 R2 | Hyper 212x | 3x 8GB + 1x 4GB @ 1600MHz | Gigabyte 2060 Super | Corsair CX650M | LG 43UK6520PSA
ASUS X550LN | i5 4210u | 12GB
Lenovo N23 Yoga

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

On 5/3/2020 at 11:17 AM, AmyTheBun said:

what does that mean?

I sent you a PM

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×