WHY do I pay Adobe $10K a YEAR!?

[RILEYISMYNAME]

It's ridiculous. Can we make our videos without touching a SINGLE Adobe Product?

 

Apps we used:

Kyno: https://lesspain.software/kyno/

Davinci Resolve / Fusion / Fairlight: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/

Affinity Photo: https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/photo/

 

 

 

[lewdicrous]

Adobe is pay to win.

[thebman]

Personally, I have had no bugs working on Adobe software. Started using it in school and have not stopped since

[Red :)]

That's fine, it's not like I wanted to sleep tonight.

[GDRRiley]

I refused to use it even in school when it was paid for. I used FCPX at school or Resolve at home.

Resolve does love GPU memory that is why the Vega VII is so strong in it.

I'm a 2 man band, Me and my GF with maybe a friend stepping in as a camera op if one of us can't make it.\

video editors only make 30$ an hour WTF, maybe it just cus I live somewhere expensive but 40+ is normal here

[Quadrum]

Professional companies tend to overpay for everything, it’s the way the market is. Gonna go watch the video now, but the title actually isn’t that ludicrous. I do music production, a full studio might spend 10s of thousands on software alone. Not saying it’s good, I’m saying it’s how it is.

[TheGrylix]

*laughs in cracked photoshop cs5*

[Senzelian]

When I saw that topic in the list on the right I thought "Who is that stupid??!"
Then I noticed that it was the new LTT video and was like "Ohhh... right..."

[SenKa]

I assume the apple route wasnt mentioned because LMG doesn't use Apple workstations for editing, but atleast in my experience as a "one man band" editor, FCPX + Affinity Photo does everything I need to do for my professional and personal editing. Though admittedly, I do switch from FCPX to Resolve and back quite a bit. My productivity between the two is roughly equal, and I cant say i have a preference. 

[minibois]

I think we all know the answer to this question 

/s

 

This post was made by the FOSS gang.

[DrMacintosh]

They built a ecosystem that hooked corporations and creators and then switched to a subscription model. The industry can't really switch away since nothing is as integrated as Adobe Products are, that is, unless you create your content on a Mac....

[diamondarrow67]

SMH Linus forgot the best ever option..windows movie maker

[Egg-Roll]

It's called a learning curve for a reason. That 90% is them basically crying about change  I like Da Vinci while I do agree with many things here vs Adobe I refuse to go back due to the cost. That said I don't do it to make money so next to forcing them to get to 98% or 100% (possible) could cost the company a fair amount of money.

 

1 hour ago, Senzelian said:

When I saw that topic in the list on the right I thought "Who is that stupid??!"
Then I noticed that it was the new LTT video and was like "Ohhh... right..."

Not really, every computer needs a license so the math makes sense. Now the madness as to why they have so many editors... Well that's a different story

 

1 hour ago, thebman said:

Personally, I have had no bugs working on Adobe software. Started using it in school and have not stopped since

You are clearly not using it right.

[GDRRiley]

22 minutes ago, thebman said:

Personally, I have had no bugs working on Adobe software. Started using it in school and have not stopped since

you've been lucky, in my class of 30 kids in high school AE crash so much I think every kid lost some amount of work they had done because it crashed every 20 mins

[GDRRiley]

1 minute ago, Egg-Roll said:

It's called a learning curve for a reason. That 90% is them basically crying about change  I like Da Vinci while I do agree with many things here vs Adobe I refuse to go back due to the cost. That said I don't do it to make money so next to forcing them to get to 98% or 100% (possible) could cost the company a fair amount of money.

 

Not really, every computer needs a license so the math makes sense. Now the madness as to why they have so many editors... Well that's a different story

Yeah it is. Taran would be crying for hours remaking hundred of macros. my GF and I do it as a side gig during college and while shes a FCPX and I'm on resolve both of us hate adobe. No way I'm paying monthly for that broken software.

 

Given they own a 4+ blackmagic cameras all come with licenses so I think they wouldn't have to buy any.

[Senzelian]

10 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Not really, every computer needs a license so the math makes sense. Now the madness as to why they have so many editors... Well that's a different story

I hope you didn't understand me incorrectly. I wasn't calling them idiots.
It was more of a "Oh, that makes sense now" moment.

[Red :)]

GIMP? Nothing?

 

*crickets chirping*

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

Yeah it is. Taran would be crying for hours remaking hundred of macros. my GF and I do it as a side gig during college and while shes a FCPX and I'm on resolve both of us hate adobe. No way I'm paying monthly for that broken software.

 

Given they own a 4+ blackmagic cameras all come with licenses so I think they wouldn't have to buy any.

Record it, monitizee on his suffering... I'm going to hell for that aren't I?

 

Shhh don't tell him that, said every editor in the building  Tho isn't that license only good for one computer? Also software included is based on the camera. the cheaper one I clicked on didn't come with it whereas the expensive one did.

 

 

  

1 hour ago, Senzelian said:

I hope you didn't understand me incorrectly. I wasn't calling them idiots.
It was more of a "Oh, that makes sense now" moment.

Nor was I, I was just calling Linus crazy for having so many (I know there is logic behind the madness). Also you should know by now if you see stupidly high numbers in the title is is either Mr Beast or LMG, or maybe you watch GrayStillPlays like me  

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Record it, monitizee on his suffering... I'm going to hell for that aren't I?

 

Shhh don't tell him that, said every editor in the building  Tho isn't that license only good for one computer? Also software included is based on the camera. the cheaper one I clicked on didn't come with it whereas the expensive one did.

lol no.

They've had a few pocket cine cameras, 2-4 (1 OG for sure, 1-2 4k and maybe 1 6k) the one used for WAN, URSA mini and each one has a dongle license.

[Nystemy]

In short.
Adobe isn't have a utterly stupendous price. But it could though likely be a bit more friendly....
Software as a service is though a model that works in some industries, and in others not.

It works fine in areas where one expects new features, performance optimizations, and tons of general bug fixes. Then paying a recurring cost is logical.

For stuff where "new features" isn't needed, performance optimization is already adequate (or could lead to worse performance for your specific system), and bugs isn't remotely a problem. Then a recurring cost for running the software is less logical.

In the case of Adobe's suite of products, then recurring costs for updates/improvements makes sense. For using what one already has on the other hand can be less so. Would be nice if one could simply say, "nah, I have what I need" and not pay more from that point on would be nice. Though, might need a heavier up front cost though to start with, Adobe though likely has a fairly large margin already.

Though, would be nice if Adobe made a "hobby" license/version, either with locked features, and/or a license restricting how much one can make (annually/monthly) with the software and still have it be a "hobby". This would then give people the opportunity to use the software without the fairly hefty economical burden it currently comes with. This being one reason I use DaVinci resolved myself, it has a free version that has a large portion of all the tools/features available. (and no restrictions in terms of income either to what I know.)

[Streetguru]

A, VEGAS(GET MAGIX TO SEND IN COPIES FOR REVIEW)

 

B. Why not just use older versions of the adobe suite that you only have to pay for once?

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Streetguru said:

B. Why not just use older versions of the adobe suite that you only have to pay for once?

do you know how badly they run?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, GDRRiley said:

do you know how badly they run?

CS2 photoshop works fine

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Streetguru said:

CS2 photoshop works fine

photoshop may do okay but good luck with older versions of PP and AE both will crash and struggle to do any 8k work.

[Streetguru]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

photoshop may do okay but good luck with older versions of PP and AE both will crash and struggle to do any 8k work.

I don't suppose the newest older version of premiere can just be modified?