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On 4/30/2020 at 6:39 AM, BobVonBob said:

how much power a "95W" 9900K pulled.

How much does it pull? I am curious because I have one but, I don't have a wattage or power meter to measure it.

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2 minutes ago, Thomas001 said:

How much does it pull? I am curious because I have one but, I don't have a wattage or power meter to measure it.

Depends on if you've overclocked it. Unchanged it will turbo itself up to about 125W consumption, if you've brought the all core turbo up to the single core turbo it will do about 175W, and if you've got an overclocked all core turbo it can easily reach 225W+ with some beefy water cooling.

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6 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

Depends on if you've overclocked it. Unchanged it will turbo itself up to about 125W consumption, if you've brought the all core turbo up to the single core turbo it will do about 175W, and if you've got an overclocked all core turbo it can easily reach 225W+ with some beefy water cooling.

It's stock but, I have cpu c-states turned off and intel speedstep turned off so it runs at the all core turbo of 4.68 ghz all the time. Also do you know if there is software that I can use to measure the power consumption of my machine? Specs in my sig

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Just now, Thomas001 said:

It's stock but, I have cpu c-states turned off and intel speedstep turned off so it runs at the all core turbo of 4.68 ghz all the time. Also do you know if there is software that I can use to measure the power consumption of my machine? Specs in my sig

I'd suggest HWiNFO.

 

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

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2 minutes ago, Thomas001 said:

Also do you know if there is software that I can use to measure the power consumption of my machine?

Software by itself can only report what some parts of the hardware reports. e.g. the CPU and GPU may report their own power, but other components don't usually.

 

I see the Corsair AX1600i in your sig, and I see a USB connector on it. If that is connected (usually plugged into a USB2 header on mobo) and you install the software for it, it can report the PSU input and output power. The output power would be what your components are using, the input power is what's going into the PSU before any conversion efficiency drop.

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13 minutes ago, porina said:

The output power would be what your components are using, the input power is what's going into the PSU before any conversion efficiency drop.

Thanks for your help! I'll check it out later whenever I am able to get on my system.

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Just now, KWelz said:

They are out of their mind!

You mean the prices? Only die hard Intel fans will buy the CPU's. I'm waiting for Harbor on Box and Tech Jesus to post benchmarks. I'm guessing the 10900K will be the one benchmarked first.

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Just now, F.E.A.R. said:

You mean the prices? Only die hard Intel fans will buy the CPU's. I'm waiting for Harbor on Box and Tech Jesus to post benchmarks. I'm guessing the 10900K will be the one benchmarked first.

Yeah looking at Pricing.   At that price the 10900K will need to outperform the 3900X by at least 20-25% to be competitive.   And I don't see that happening.  At best they are going to Match IPCs again and that is even questionable.  Not to mention the greatly increased heat output from these processors.  

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6 minutes ago, KWelz said:

Yeah looking at Pricing.   At that price the 10900K will need to outperform the 3900X by at least 20-25% to be competitive.   And I don't see that happening.  At best they are going to Match IPCs again and that is even questionable.  Not to mention the greatly increased heat output from these processors.  

Yeah the prices are absurd. I guess the 10900K will outperform the 3900X at 5.2 GHz with 250W draw, with 20-30 FPS difference 😆. From my point of view, the only way Intel is going to match IPC's is by overclocking the CPU's for better performances, at the cost of huge power draw and CPU heat. Also I won't be surprised if retailers are gonna put Intel 10th chips in their prebuilts making the prebuilts even more expensive like they always had.

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Excuse the noob.

 

What's the difference between the 10900 and the 10900k? Only GPU?

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4 minutes ago, Andreas Lilja said:

Excuse the noob.

 

What's the difference between the 10900 and the 10900k? Only GPU?

The K model is overclockable.  The non K is not. 

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59 minutes ago, F.E.A.R. said:

From my point of view, the only way Intel is going to match IPC's is by overclocking the CPU's for better performances, at the cost of huge power draw and CPU heat.

Just to give you a heads up, clock frequency has nothing to do with IPC. As the acronym IPC means Instructions per clock, the efficiency to complete instructions is what determines IPC. That can also change entirely depending on which instructions and extensions (e.g. AVX, AVX-512, FMA, SSA, AES, MMX, etc) you are utilizing.This is why you see labels like ISA as it stands for Instruction Set Architecture.

 

That being said, your single or multi threaded performance is effected by the IPC performance, the clock rate (among many other factors such as cache layout and amount) used and, in the case of multi threaded work, the amount of threads utilized and how well. This is why you can't say one is definitely better than the other as far as IPC because it depends on what instruction you are referring to as performance varies greatly depending on which ones are being utilized.

 

I apologize you think I'm picking you out specifically as I wasn't intentionally. I have seen it used incorrectly and people get confused or get the wrong impression of how things work. Like always, everyone's workload is unique. Hopefully others reading might see this and understand a bit better.

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2 hours ago, KWelz said:

The K model is overclockable.  The non K is not. 

To be entirely pedantic, it is more accurate to say that they K series processors are unlocked, and therefore can be overclocked. ;)

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Intel Core i9-10900K CPU Flagship Review Leaks Out

 

Intel 10900K Gaming Performance: Tested aggregate ~3.3% faster than AMD 3950X, 4.1% faster than AMD 3900X

 

i9 10900K power consumption and temperature are high again, 360 integrated water cooling is the minimum heat dissipation standard

 

The Intel Core i9 10900K consumes 338W of power at peak compared to 263W and 306W for the 3900X and 3950X respectively. 

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a 10900K cannot consume 338W of power by itself.  At least not unless you go under LN2..  Could be reporting total system power there.  Or a CPU VID being reported sky high compared to CPU Vcore.

Just to put this into perspective, a CPU Vcore of 1.4v at LOAD, pulling max amps from a 10900k (245A IOUT) is 343 watts from the VRM measurement circuitry (Die sense).  Try something like that and you're going to be at 100C in less than a second.

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3 minutes ago, Falkentyne said:

a 10900K cannot consume 338W of power by itself.  At least not unless you go under LN2..  Could be reporting total system power there.  Or a CPU VID being reported sky high compared to CPU Vcore.

Just to put this into perspective, a CPU Vcore of 1.4v at LOAD, pulling max amps from a 10900k (245A IOUT) is 343 watts from the VRM measurement circuitry (Die sense).  Try something like that and you're going to be at 100C in less than a second.

I didn't take the article as 100% true, but I doubt that 10900K WILL draw a lot more power and run hot. We'll have to wait for benchmarks from Tech Jesus and Harbor on Box to see just how much power it draws and how hot it runs. I don't take this early review as granted but it's interesting non the less.

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59 minutes ago, Falkentyne said:

a 10900K cannot consume 338W of power by itself.  At least not unless you go under LN2..  Could be reporting total system power there.  Or a CPU VID being reported sky high compared to CPU Vcore.

looks like full system power, software is reporting the 10900k at 212W, 3950X 180 and 3900x at 145W

 

There wasn't much intel could do this gen and given 4000 chips will be out in a few months intel is about to get overtaken in every category. given how close the single core scores already are a slight clock bump+IPC gains should make AMD the crown of any workload

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