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GTX 1650/1660 or RX 5500XT/5600XT for Photoshop

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1 hour ago, -rascal- said:
  • For her use case, will a nVidia or AMD GPU matter?
  • If yes, would there be much performance difference between the¬†¬†GTX 1650 (SUPER) or GTX 1660 (SUPER)?
  • If no, nVidia GPU or AMD GPU?

GFX acceleration under Photoshop is slight (source: I'm a photographer) and is only used on a few select parts of PS. Unless she is doing the work professionally with huge RAW files and tons of layers, a simple nVidia 660GTX or better will do just fine.

EDIT:¬†I guess this *may* have been in posted the New Builds and Planning sub-category instead as well¬†ūü§∑‚Äć‚ôāÔłŹ

 

A co-worker of mine asked me to spec out a new system for his mother (or mother in-law).

She mainly uses the PC for day-to-day tasks, editing photos she takes with her cameras in Photoshop, and digital painting.

 

Budget of around $1000 CAD (under $1000 if possible).

He pointed out that he wanted 16GB of RAM -- I tried to work 32GB within the $1000 budget, but seems to be hard to do for now.

 

I've got most of the parts worked out, but I'm just on the GPU.

I don't know how advanced she is with Photoshop, but from what I can find, Photoshop tends to favour nVidia GPUs.

Since I'm not a Photoshop user, I'm kind of stuck with these questions now:

  1. For her use case, will a nVidia or AMD GPU matter?
  2. If yes, would there be much performance difference between the  GTX 1650 (SUPER) or GTX 1660 (SUPER)?
  3. If no, nVidia GPU or AMD GPU?

 

The GTX 1650 (Super) only comes with 4GB of VRAM, so I'm leaning towards the GTX 1660 (Super) or the RX 5500XT / 5600XT due to the extra VRAM.

GTX 1660 6GB, RX 5500XT and 5600XT both 8GB.

 

The build sheet so far...and some things I'd like to point out:

  • WD SN750 NVMe SSD, over something like the Crucial P1/P2 or Intel 660p, because of QLC NAND and their slow speeds with large files
  • The extra cost on a 970 Evo¬†Plus, or 970 Pro is kind of hard to swallow with the budget limit
  • Considering an inexpensive CPU (air) cooler as well, depend on what is remaining of the budget
  • P400A case for better airflow, and already included 3x fans -- good out-of-the-box
  • Still deciding on the PSU, whether or not to go with non-modular (cheaper) or semi-modular¬†route (easier cabling, keeping the system tidy looking)
  • Try to keep the merchants between Amazon / MemoryExpress / NewEgg ... if possible

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($106.55 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power U9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $741.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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  • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master¬†--¬†ASUS X99 Deluxe
  • Sapphire NITRO+ RX 5700 XT Special Edition --¬†2x Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire
  • 32GB G.Skill TridentZ¬†DDR4-3000 CL14 (16GB TridentZ RGB + 16GB Red/Black TridentZ)
  • SanDisk¬†480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO¬†+ 1TB Intel 660p NVMe
  • EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod¬†Cables
  • Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass¬†Edition
  • Ekwb Custom loop
  • Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns)

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  • Intel i5-4690K @¬†4.8 GHz
  • ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950¬†EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0
  • 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
  • Corsair A50 air cooler¬† NZXT X61
  • Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD +¬†Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version]
  • Antec New TruePower 550W¬†EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables
  • Cooler Master HAF 912¬†White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips

AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned)

  • FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt)
  • ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX
  • 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire¬†¬†Sapphire NITRO¬†R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE*
  • Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull
  • Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD
  • Corsair TX850 (ver.1)
  • Cooler Master HAF 932

 

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IIRC the few filters that can take advantage of the GPU in Photoshop use OpenCL (could be wrong so don't quote me on that though), so an AMD card might be the better choice, but honestly I wouldn't expect too notable of a difference. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $256.95 @ Vuugo
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $115.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $179.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital SN750 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $109.99 @ Memory Express
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5500 XT 4 GB Challenger D OC Video Card $238.50 @ Vuugo
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $77.68 @ Vuugo
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $998.61
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $978.61
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Wouldn't a CPU with integrated graphics be enough for Photoshop ? That and 8 or 16gb of RAM would be plenty (and much cheaper!) for just editing pictures. I'd use the leftover money to get a really nice display instead.

 

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1 hour ago, -rascal- said:
  • For her use case, will a nVidia or AMD GPU matter?
  • If yes, would there be much performance difference between the¬†¬†GTX 1650 (SUPER) or GTX 1660 (SUPER)?
  • If no, nVidia GPU or AMD GPU?

GFX acceleration under Photoshop is slight (source: I'm a photographer) and is only used on a few select parts of PS. Unless she is doing the work professionally with huge RAW files and tons of layers, a simple nVidia 660GTX or better will do just fine.

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8 hours ago, badkitty said:

Wouldn't a CPU with integrated graphics be enough for Photoshop ? That and 8 or 16gb of RAM would be plenty (and much cheaper!) for just editing pictures. I'd use the leftover money to get a really nice display instead.

 

I have experience with integrated, and as long as it's at least Vega 11 performance, it should be fine. MUST BE PAIRED WITH 16GB OF HIGH QUALITY RAM, AND A MOTHERBOARD WITH DECENT SUPPORT!!!

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30

Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

Monitor: MSI Optix MAG272CR Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

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22 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

IIRC the few filters that can take advantage of the GPU in Photoshop use OpenCL (could be wrong so don't quote me on that though), so an AMD card might be the better choice, but honestly I wouldn't expect too notable of a difference. 

Thanks for the suggestion.

I was looking at 2018 / 2019 tests with Photoshop from Puget Systems, and it looks like nVidia GPUs are favored.

Then again, only a few tasks takes advantage of GPU acceleration.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-GPU-Performance-1139/

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-GPU-Roundup-NVIDIA-SUPER-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT-1552/

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2019-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-Performance-1269/

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-vs-AMD-Radeon-Vega-1197/

 

 

22 hours ago, badkitty said:

Wouldn't a CPU with integrated graphics be enough for Photoshop ? That and 8 or 16gb of RAM would be plenty (and much cheaper!) for just editing pictures. I'd use the leftover money to get a really nice display instead.

 

It was requested that 16GB of one of the requirements.

From what I can see, it will depend on the number of files you are working with, and file format.

For, I'm assuming high resolution or RAW files, 16GB is recommended for 500MB files, 32GB for 500MB ~ 1GB files, and 64GB+ for anything higher.

The more layers, the larger the file size.

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While the exact amount of RAM you need is going to depend on the size and number of images you will be working with, we generally recommend a minimum of 16GB for all our systems. Memory usage in Photoshop can quickly shoot up, however, so it is important that you ensure you have enough system RAM available.

How much RAM does Photoshop need?

 

The exact amount you need will depend on exactly what you are doing, but based on your document size we recommend a minimum of 16GB of RAM for 500MB documents or smaller, 32GB for 500MB-1GB, and 64GB+ for even larger documents.

 

 

Plus, the plan is to go with something like a Ryzen 3600, i5-9600KF, or something along those lines...no iGPU anyways.

 

I don't know whether or not they already have a decent enough quality monitor; was only given the request for the PC / system itself.

 

 

21 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

GFX acceleration under Photoshop is slight (source: I'm a photographer) and is only used on a few select parts of PS. Unless she is doing the work professionally with huge RAW files and tons of layers, a simple nVidia 660GTX or better will do just fine.

Alright, thanks.

I could cut back a little bit on the GPU side, and allocate more to the storage (e.g. larger NVMe drive), PSU, chassis, and look into getting a quieter / better CPU cooler.

 

14 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

I have experience with integrated, and as long as it's at least Vega 11 performance, it should be fine. MUST BE PAIRED WITH 16GB OF HIGH QUALITY RAM, AND A MOTHERBOARD WITH DECENT SUPPORT!!!

I probably would not go for the iGPU route -- non-APU Ryzen wouldn't have iGPU anyways.

Thanks!¬†ūüĎć

Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary )

Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel)

  • i7-8086K @ 5.1¬†GHz (still tweaking)¬†--¬†i7-6800K
  • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master¬†--¬†ASUS X99 Deluxe
  • Sapphire NITRO+ RX 5700 XT Special Edition --¬†2x Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire
  • 32GB G.Skill TridentZ¬†DDR4-3000 CL14 (16GB TridentZ RGB + 16GB Red/Black TridentZ)
  • SanDisk¬†480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO¬†+ 1TB Intel 660p NVMe
  • EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod¬†Cables
  • Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass¬†Edition
  • Ekwb Custom loop
  • Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns)

Intel Z97 Rig (Secondary)

  • Intel i5-4690K @¬†4.8 GHz
  • ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950¬†EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0
  • 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz
  • Corsair A50 air cooler¬† NZXT X61
  • Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD +¬†Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version]
  • Antec New TruePower 550W¬†EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables
  • Cooler Master HAF 912¬†White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips

AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned)

  • FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt)
  • ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX
  • 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz
  • Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire¬†¬†Sapphire NITRO¬†R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE*
  • Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull
  • Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD
  • Corsair TX850 (ver.1)
  • Cooler Master HAF 932

 

<> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <>

<> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <>

<> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <>

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