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So I am looking to buy a really good graphics card for my next pc build. I am thinking of pairing it with 32gb of ram and a ryzen 5 3600. What do you guys think?

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

GPU: Gigabyte gtx 1660 Super oc 6g
Mobo:MSI b450 tomahawk max

RAM: 32gb ddr4 lpx vengeance 3200mhz

PSU: cxm 450

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Just now, KGGaming said:

So I am looking to buy a really good graphics card for my next pc build. I am thinking of pairing it with 32gb of ram and a ryzen 5 3600. What do you guys think?

Just a couple months ago I was thinking about the same dilemma too.

The two videocards are quite similar in performance, so for 4K60fps or 1440p@144Hz, both will do quite well.

 

Normally I consider myself to be an AMD fan, but in the end I personally went for the 2070 Super. I did this because:

- the price difference was minimal

- GeForce Experience's Shadowplay recording software seemed to work better

- certain compute tasks were better supported (at the time) on the Nvidia card

- I program I use only supports Nvidia cards (program to upscale images)

 

If I didn't care about those last three and/or the price difference was (much) larger, I would go for the 5700XT.

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I would go for the 2070 Super as AMD have a little problem with the driver crashing with certain games, although the 5700XT is good value for money

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

Just a couple months ago I was thinking about the same dilemma too.

The two videocards are quite similar in performance, so for 4K60fps or 1440p@144Hz, both will do quite well.

 

Normally I consider myself to be an AMD fan, but in the end I personally went for the 2070 Super. I did this because:

- the price difference was minimal

- GeForce Experience's Shadowplay recording software seemed to work better

- certain compute tasks were better supported (at the time) on the Nvidia card

- I program I use only supports Nvidia cards (program to upscale images)

 

If I didn't care about those last three and/or the price difference was (much) larger, I would go for the 5700XT.

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2 minutes ago, minibois said:

Just a couple months ago I was thinking about the same dilemma too.

The two videocards are quite similar in performance, so for 4K60fps or 1440p@144Hz, both will do quite well.

 

Normally I consider myself to be an AMD fan, but in the end I personally went for the 2070 Super. I did this because:

- the price difference was minimal

- GeForce Experience's Shadowplay recording software seemed to work better

- certain compute tasks were better supported (at the time) on the Nvidia card

- I program I use only supports Nvidia cards (program to upscale images)

 

If I didn't care about those last three and/or the price difference was (much) larger, I would go for the 5700XT.

Is it worth it to spend that extra like £90

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

GPU: Gigabyte gtx 1660 Super oc 6g
Mobo:MSI b450 tomahawk max

RAM: 32gb ddr4 lpx vengeance 3200mhz

PSU: cxm 450

Case: Corsair Carbide Series

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Just now, KGGaming said:

Is it worth it to spend that extra like £90

Txt 2070super is a bit faster and since next gen consoles will have rtx I would go for the 2070 super

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Agree with @minibois

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1 minute ago, KGGaming said:

Is it worth it to spend that extra like £90

As stated if you care about the features that NVIDIA offers like reliable driver updates, rtx voice, rtx, Dlss 2.0, enbank in coder thing, and other stuff.

Also are you getting 32 gigs of ram for Microsoft Flight simulator?

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1 minute ago, Gundar said:

As stated if you care about the features that NVIDIA offers like reliable driver updates, rtx voice, rtx, Dlss 2.0, enbank in coder thing, and other stuff.

Also are you getting 32 gigs of ram for Microsoft Flight simulator?

I already have 32gb of ram from the build I am using now, and which I will send the used parts to add for a bit of my budget

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

GPU: Gigabyte gtx 1660 Super oc 6g
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2 minutes ago, KGGaming said:

Is it worth it to spend that extra like £90

Looking at the pricing, it seems like you can get a good cooler 5700XT for about 370 GBP and a good cooler 2070 Super for 500GBP (correct me if I'm wrong here).

Just a little bit ago I plotted out some values for someone playing at 1440p, but the percentages should still line up for you.

These are just a couple games, showing the fps of the 5700XT & 2070 Super & your current card (1050 Ti):

image.thumb.png.49a02308ced8e8cd2caf6f7d247a8f7e.png

Source on the fps numbers: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_2070_super_gaming_z_trio_review,20.html

 

They are both - as you can see in column K - about 'as much better as your current videocard'. The 5700XT just does it at a lower price point, making the GBP per PERCENT (what column L should have been called) a lower number for the 5700XT.

 

To me, the 2070 Super was worth it for the extra features. For 'just gaming', the 5700XT is just much better value.

 

Linus in the past during WAN Show Nvidia is not there much for the 'lowest price performance', but more there like "yeah, we've got good cards and good supporting software (like Shadowplay and such), so we charge a premium".

It's just now up to you; is that extra stuff worth the premium to you?

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3 minutes ago, minibois said:

Looking at the pricing, it seems like you can get a good cooler 5700XT for about 370 GBP and a good cooler 2070 Super for 500GBP (correct me if I'm wrong here).

Just a little bit ago I plotted out some values for someone playing at 1440p, but the percentages should still line up for you.

These are just a couple games, showing the fps of the 5700XT & 2070 Super & your current card (1050 Ti):

image.thumb.png.49a02308ced8e8cd2caf6f7d247a8f7e.png

Source on the fps numbers: https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_2070_super_gaming_z_trio_review,20.html

 

They are both - as you can see in column K - about 'as much better as your current videocard'. The 5700XT just does it at a lower price point, making the GBP per PERCENT (what column L should have been called) a lower number for the 5700XT.

 

To me, the 2070 Super was worth it for the extra features. For 'just gaming', the 5700XT is just much better value.

 

Linus in the past during WAN Show Nvidia is not there much for the 'lowest price performance', but more there like "yeah, we've got good cards and good supporting software (like Shadowplay and such), so we charge a premium".

It's just now up to you; is that extra stuff worth the premium to you?

I plan to go into video editing using Da vinci Resolve 15 which I know he more focused for using the GPU mainly instead of the CPU. The build will also do streaming and recording so...

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

GPU: Gigabyte gtx 1660 Super oc 6g
Mobo:MSI b450 tomahawk max

RAM: 32gb ddr4 lpx vengeance 3200mhz

PSU: cxm 450

Case: Corsair Carbide Series

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28 minutes ago, KGGaming said:

I plan to go into video editing using Da vinci Resolve 15 which I know he more focused for using the GPU mainly instead of the CPU. The build will also do streaming and recording so...

Davinci Resolve is focused on both your GPU and CPU. Just depends on what you're doing.

Simply put, it uses your GPU for live playback, but it uses the CPU for rendering (including making proxies/optimized media and end rendering at the end of your work).

Furthermore I recommend getting an SSD with plenty of space for this optimized media (a SATA drive with decent endurance will work fine) and at least 16GB of RAM.

 

I don't think there would be a difference between the 5700XT and 2070 Super in Davinci Resolve (at least I didn't notice an improvement when going from my RX 580 to my 2070 Super).

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If you're looking for value then get the 5700XT, if money isn't a problem then fork out and grab a 2070 super.

However there's also the option of waiting for Amphere and grabbing an RTX 3070 some time in the summer, which will net you more performance for the money than either card, although you will have to wait a little bit.  

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11 hours ago, Dancam38 said:

next gen consoles will have rtx

No, they most definitely won't. They have already released the specs for them, and both of the new consoles use Big Navi.

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