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Motherboard for Ryzen 7 3700x

Hi i am looking at getting a ryzen 7 3700x but not sure on what motherboard to get. i have been looking at the msi mpg x570 gaming pro carbon wifi not sure if its the one though. I have a $400 AUD budget. stick with the msi mpg x570 gaming pro carbon wifi or what should i get. thanks 

Edit: wifi is not needed and even a b450 board would do 

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asus x570 tuf (wifi) is the best motherboard in its price range.

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7 minutes ago, jozza1998 said:

stick with the msi mpg x570 gaming pro carbon wifi

Please don't. MSI's current entry to mid level X570 boards have subpar VRMs.

 

If you need onboard Wi-Fi, go for ASUS' TUF X570-PLUS (Wi-Fi), or wait for MSI's X570 Tomahawk.

You could also go with a B450 board like an MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon Max. It should be enough for up to a stock 3900X.

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1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Please don't. MSI's current entry to mid level X570 boards have subpar VRMs.

 

If you need onboard Wi-Fi, go for ASUS' TUF X570-PLUS (Wi-Fi), or wait for MSI's X570 Tomahawk.

You could also go with a B450 board like an MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon.

Or even the B450 Tomahawk Max and toss in a wifi card.

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What about this one? Looks good enough but is $40 USD over budget :(

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17 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

asus x570 tuf (wifi) is the best motherboard in its price range.

sadly this board is not available around me

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Just now, jozza1998 said:

sadly this board is not available around me

ok. also welcome to the forum!

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            OS: Ubuntu 20.04

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don't some things look better when they are lowercase?

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15 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Or even the B450 Tomahawk Max and toss in a wifi card.

MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon looks good but is it good?

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1 minute ago, wall03 said:

ok. also welcome to the forum!

thanks glad i finally found like minded people lol

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4 minutes ago, jozza1998 said:

MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon looks good but is it good?

it's good...just doesn't have pcie gen4 support...xD...msi x570 you can wait for the tomahawk or get the unify...for msi's b450 look for those with a MAX in the name..or you'll have to check if the bios is updated for ryzen 3000s...

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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msi b450 tomahawk and gaming pro carbon are not bad..i have the b450 gaming pro carbon ac in the living room..xD

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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10 minutes ago, jozza1998 said:

MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon looks good but is it good?

Non-MAX B450 boards aren't guaranteed to have Ryzen 3000 support out of the box.

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1 minute ago, Lurick said:

Non-MAX B450 boards aren't guaranteed to have Ryzen 3000 support out of the box.

its not hard to update the bios just need bios flash back i think thats what its called

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1 minute ago, jozza1998 said:

its not hard to update the bios just need bios flash back i think thats what its called

Correct, so long as the board has that feature then you're good.

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6 minutes ago, ZephCloud said:

msi b450 tomahawk and gaming pro carbon are not bad..i have the b450 gaming pro carbon ac in the living room..xD

yeah ive heard the tomahawks are great boards and a mate of mine has a carbon pro he says its a good board and it looks good

 

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Just now, Lurick said:

Correct, so long as the board has that feature then you're good.

yeah haha just gotta make sure 

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oh ya...i forgot these 2 boards has bios flash function...lol..but the bios is a cut down lite version...you can still do all the overclock you need on it...the MAX versions has larger bios chip to get the full bios installed...

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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Looking at the b450 boards and there $200aud cheaper the some x570 boards would it be worth getting a b450 and a ryzen 9 3900x instead of a x570 board and a 3700x?

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it's up to you...i've got a 3700x with msi meg x570 ace and looking at ryzen 4000s cpu as an upgrade in the future...i've gotten them when it launched so it's not the best board around...

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700X 4.3Ghz (-0.1V)
  • Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 ACE
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) F4-3200C16D-32GTRS
  • GPU
    GIGABYTE AORUS GeForce® GTX 1060 6G (rev. 2.0)
  • Case
    Cooler Master MASTERBOX MB520 ARGB + Changed Exhaust Fans(Cooler Master MasterFan MF120R ARGB)
  • Storage
    ADATA XPG SX8100 2TB PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 SSD, ADATA Ultimate SU800 2TB 2.5" SSD, Toshiba X300 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache 
  • PSU
    Cooler Master MWE GOLD 750 FULL MODULAR
  • Display(s)
    Acer KG271B Gaming Monitor (HDR Ready 27" 1920X1080 240Hz)
  • Cooling
    Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240R RGB
  • Keyboard
    MSI Vigor GK80 RED GAMING KEYBOARD
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition Wired Laser Mouse
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
  • Router
    Asus ROG Rapture GT-AX 11000
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MSI has just relased the X570 Tomahawk for around 200 bucks. According to Steve from HArdware Unboxed it is the best budget x570 board on the market so far. If you can get one of those - go for it. MSI just solved all the issues the Gaming Pro Carbon and the other budget x570 boards had. It can run a 16 core without issues and cool VRM.

 

If the Tomahawk is not available (yet), look out for the Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite. Also a great board for about 200 bucks, solid VRM and PLENTY of USB ports, in case that matters. A third alternative is the Asus TUF X570 Plus. The Tomahawk would be my No1 choice if available.

 

Maybe Linus and crew could have a more detailed look at the MSI X570 Tomahawk - also buildzoid calls it his new "go to Board for overclocking".

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ASRock ist not an option in this price range due to the really bad UEFIs they have. The X570 Tomahawk would be the best option if available.

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