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PC Crashes when using XMP

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So my pc has a 9700K running at 4.8GHz, a ASUS Maximus XI Code, 32GB of Corsair Dominator platinum ram (rated at 3600MHz), and a EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid. I’ve had an issue where my PC crashes when enabling XMP (I’ve tried XMP I and XMP II) since I upgraded to the 9700K, but until now I’ve just ignored it run at stock RAM speeds. I’m not sure what to do. I’ve tried disabling my CPU overclock but it still crashes. Any tips?

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Well, first of all, have you upgraded the BIOS at all? Memory compatibility tends to be more stable on the latest revisions. Also, did you tune the voltage on the RAM so it might help stability? I haven't had luck running it on auto myself.

Another thing, if you OCed the CPU core clock instead of the multiplier, that might cause memory instability as well

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Add a bit more dram voltage, say up to 1.4v, and increase VCCSA and VCCIO to 1.2.

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41 minutes ago, katoptrys said:

Well, first of all, have you upgraded the BIOS at all? Memory compatibility tends to be more stable on the latest revisions. Also, did you tune the voltage on the RAM so it might help stability? I haven't had luck running it on auto myself.

Another thing, if you OCed the CPU core clock instead of the multiplier, that might cause memory instability as well

Yes, I have the BIOS updated. I’ll try upping the voltage, but I ran 3600MHz with stock (preset) voltage when I was on my Z270 board with my old 7700K. As far as the CPU overclock, I did use the multiplayer, however even with the CPU overclock disabled it still crashes.

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Is it recommended to use XMP I or XMP II?

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2 minutes ago, KSP said:

Is it recommended to use XMP I or XMP II?

not sure, i have never seen XMP I or II; what changes when you select one over the other

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3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

not sure, i have never seen XMP I or II; what changes when you select one over the other

(From the ROG forums):

XMP I - Board optimised timings

XMP II - Default XMP timings”

 

XMP I is the same XMP profile found on older ASUS motherboards.

 

 

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20 hours ago, KSP said:

Yes, I have the BIOS updated. I’ll try upping the voltage, but I ran 3600MHz with stock (preset) voltage when I was on my Z270 board with my old 7700K. As far as the CPU overclock, I did use the multiplayer, however even with the CPU overclock disabled it still crashes.

 

Each CPU is uniquely different -- the CPU "silicon lottery."

The motherboard also plays part role.

 

It looks like the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) within your i7-7700K is better than the IMC in your i7-9700K.

DDR4-3600 can only be obtained by overclocking the CPU's IMC.

i7-9700K is only rated up until DDR4-2666, which does not require overclocking.

 

Try this:

  • Enable XMP for DDR4-3600 frequency, so the timings + voltages are set for you
  • With XMP still enabled, MANUALLY set the DRAM frequency to...say... DDR4-3466 or DDR4-3400.
  • See if any of those lower frequencies are stable

 

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20 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Each CPU is uniquely different -- the CPU "silicon lottery."

The motherboard also plays part role.

 

It looks like the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) within your i7-7700K is better than the IMC in your i7-9700K.

DDR4-3600 can only be obtained by overclocking the CPU's IMC.

i7-9700K is only rated up until DDR4-2666, which does not require overclocking.

 

Try this:

  • Enable XMP for DDR4-3600 frequency, so the timings + voltages are set for you
  • With XMP still enabled, MANUALLY set the DRAM frequency to...say... DDR4-3466 or DDR4-3400.
  • See if any of those lower frequencies are stable

 

Ah yes, I forgot about IMC. I just assumed that these newer CPUs would just somehow be better built for higher RAM frequencies lol. Anyways, I’ve been running it at 3400MHz now and it seems to be fine. I’ll run it for the next few hours to be sure of course. Kinda sucks that I can’t use all 3600MHz, but I suppose it’ll only be a difference of a few frames in games. Thanks!

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