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Which CPU should I get? i5 9400f or R5 2600

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Hi, so I'm planning to build a PC for $1300 NZD, which is about $780 USD.

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GTX 1650 SUPER

2 x 8GB 3200MHz

550W Cooler Master MWE (BRONZE)

 

So, basically I'm just wondering if I should get the 9400f or 2600. They are the same price in NZ ($240 NZD which is $144 USD). I'm obviously going to be gaming. But, I'm going to be working on Virtual Machines, media browsing and other stuff (stuff being very normal and not super extensive work). Thanks in advance :)

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i5 9400f is little better in gaming, but that ryzen destroys the i5 9400f in any other way

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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1 minute ago, NZgamer said:

2600 is way better value

Okay, thanks!

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Just now, SavageNeo said:

i5 9400f is little better in gaming, but that ryzen destroys the i5 9400f in any other way

Okay thank you. Do you think I should spend a bit more for the 3600 or just stick with the 2600?

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1 minute ago, sahil! said:

Okay, thanks!

Want to drop in here or pm your full specs ? I have been build new pcs on pbtech at each price point and i think we could help improve it a little more to get more bang for ya buck if you wish. i know around 1400 nzd i have a 2600 paired with a 2060

CPU - I9 10900 | CPU Cooler - Corsair Hydro Series H100x AIO | Motherboard -  Aorus B460 PRO AC | RAM -G.SKILL Ripjaw V series 4x8GB 2666MHZ | Graphics Card - Gigabyte RTX 3070  | Power Supply - Cooler Master 650w  | Storage -  Working on a new Spicy 

 

Operating System - Windows 10 Pro

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Escapenz said:

Want to drop in here or pm your full specs ? I have been build new pcs on pbtech at each price point and i think we could help improve it a little more to get more bang for ya buck if you wish. i know around 1400 nzd i have a 2600 paired with a 2060

Oh definitely, I'll show you the list

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24 minutes ago, sahil! said:

Okay thank you. Do you think I should spend a bit more for the 3600 or just stick with the 2600?

Yes as the 3600 beats the 9400 in gaming and annihilated it in everything else. Really, the i5 has been dead for years at this point

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4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Yes as the 3600 beats the 9400 in gaming and annihilated it in everything else. Really, the i5 has been dead for years at this point

okay swt thanks

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1 minute ago, sahil! said:

okay swt thanks

Also look at the 5500 XT or RX 580/590. They usually perform better than the 1650 and cost about the same

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The 9400F is slightly faster for most games.

You can do better for that budget. This is a bit over but it has a much better PSU and GPU. That SSD is just okay but at that price it's an absolute steal. $16 USD for a 240gb ssd is insane. Even a 120GB SSD for that price would be a good deal.

Afaik that motherboard will work with Coffee Lake out of the box, doesn't need a BIOS update.
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H310M-K R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($117.93 @ Ascent Technology) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.95 @ PB Technologies) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.08 @ Aquila Technology) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($675.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($112.90 @ Playtech) 
Total: $1455.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 21:38 NZST+1200

 

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7 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The 9400F is slightly faster for most games.

You can do better for that budget. This is a bit over but it has a much better PSU and GPU. That SSD is just okay but at that price it's an absolute steal. $16 USD for a 240gb ssd is insane. Even a 120GB SSD for that price would be a good deal.

Afaik that motherboard will work with Coffee Lake out of the box, doesn't need a BIOS update.
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H310M-K R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($117.93 @ Ascent Technology) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.95 @ PB Technologies) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.08 @ Aquila Technology) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($675.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($112.90 @ Playtech) 
Total: $1455.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 21:38 NZST+1200

 

ryzen 5 3600 is better at games

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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37 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Also look at the 5500 XT or RX 580/590. They usually perform better than the 1650 and cost about the same

I'm getting a 1650 Super. It's a little worse (depending on the games) but the 5500XT is around $50 NZD more. Also the 580 and 590 aren't in stock at my local retailers :/

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9 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The 9400F is slightly faster for most games.

You can do better for that budget. This is a bit over but it has a much better PSU and GPU. That SSD is just okay but at that price it's an absolute steal. $16 USD for a 240gb ssd is insane. Even a 120GB SSD for that price would be a good deal.

Afaik that motherboard will work with Coffee Lake out of the box, doesn't need a BIOS update.
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H310M-K R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($117.93 @ Ascent Technology) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.95 @ PB Technologies) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.08 @ Aquila Technology) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($675.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($112.90 @ Playtech) 
Total: $1455.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Oh wow thank you so much!

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1 minute ago, NZgamer said:

Won't have to deal with buggy AMD drivers now lol

haha very true

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The 1650 reviewed pretty badly.  Consider checking the used market for your GPU.  It will help you stretch your budget and maybe get a higher tier card (ie. 1660,ti,super, GTX 1070).

 

 

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11 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

ryzen 5 3600 is better at games

The 3600 is significantly more expensive though.

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13 minutes ago, sahil! said:

I'm getting a 1650 Super. It's a little worse (depending on the games) but the 5500XT is around $50 NZD more. Also the 580 and 590 aren't in stock at my local retailers :/

Do consider a 1060 or 1660. Used is also fine. The 1650's 128-bit interface is a massive bottleneck in modern games.

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52 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

The 9400F is slightly faster for most games.

You can do better for that budget. This is a bit over but it has a much better PSU and GPU. That SSD is just okay but at that price it's an absolute steal. $16 USD for a 240gb ssd is insane. Even a 120GB SSD for that price would be a good deal.

Afaik that motherboard will work with Coffee Lake out of the box, doesn't need a BIOS update.
 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.50 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H310M-K R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($117.93 @ Ascent Technology) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.95 @ PB Technologies) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.08 @ Aquila Technology) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($675.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($112.90 @ Playtech) 
Total: $1455.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 21:38 NZST+1200

 

I made a change to the ram as the mobo you have gone for only supports up to 2666mhz, you need a Z390 board to use the xmp to get the ram to run at 3200mhz. I also changed the GPU to a 2060 which will save you $50 for similar performance and you get ray tracing too :)

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $248.50 @ 1stWave Technologies
Motherboard Asus PRIME H310M-K R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $117.93 @ Ascent Technology
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $152.90 @ Playtech
Storage Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $28.08 @ Aquila Technology
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $639.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Case Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $98.00 @ Mighty Ape
Power Supply Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $112.90 @ Playtech
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1397.31
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 22:35 NZST+1200  

 

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10 minutes ago, Rancidpunk said:

 

I made a change to the ram as the mobo you have gone for only supports up to 2666mhz, you need a Z390 board to use the xmp to get the ram to run at 3200mhz. I also changed the GPU to a 2060 which will save you $50 for similar performance and you get ray tracing too :)

Eh... Depends on how much you care about Ray Tracing. And yeah forgot about h310 clock cap.

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Actually @sahil! @Rancidpunk I'm gonna recommend the Ryzen 2600. With the faster memory it should actually beat the i5 9400F or at least shorten the lead. If you use Adobe Suite and care about Ray Tracing, sure, get an RTX 2060. If you can find a Ryzen 1600 'AF' in New Zealand, get it. 12nm 6 core with hyperthreading. Same performance as a 2600, just cheaper.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.00 @ Computer Lounge) 
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.95 @ PB Technologies) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.08 @ Aquila Technology) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($639.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($112.90 @ Playtech) 
Total: $1400.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 22:55 NZST+1200

 

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27 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Actually @sahil! @Rancidpunk I'm gonna recommend the Ryzen 2600. With the faster memory it should actually beat the i5 9400F or at least shorten the lead. If you use Adobe Suite and care about Ray Tracing, sure, get an RTX 2060. If you can find a Ryzen 1600 'AF' in New Zealand, get it. 12nm 6 core with hyperthreading. Same performance as a 2600, just cheaper.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.00 @ Computer Lounge) 
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($174.95 @ PB Technologies) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.08 @ Aquila Technology) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($639.00 @ 1stWave Technologies) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.00 @ Mighty Ape) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($112.90 @ Playtech) 
Total: $1400.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-25 22:55 NZST+1200

 

Oh wow thanks. I'm looking for a better motherboard though (B450 area). Do you have any suggestions

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51 minutes ago, sahil! said:

Oh wow thanks. I'm looking for a better motherboard though (B450 area). Do you have any suggestions

there's the Pro-VDH Max and mortar titanium.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 hour ago, sahil! said:

Oh wow thanks. I'm looking for a better motherboard though (B450 area). Do you have any suggestions

MSI B450 Pro Max.

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3 hours ago, Aereldor said:

Eh... Depends on how much you care about Ray Tracing. And yeah forgot about h310 clock cap.

That's why I smiled, I bought a 1660 ti just before the 2000 series came out and don't regret it although the £100 trade-in I got from Asus for my old card was the deciding factor!

It has proved pretty much perfect paired with a 9400f on a Z390 that I ended up with after my own personal Ryzen 3600 nightmare.

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2 hours ago, Rancidpunk said:

That's why I smiled, I bought a 1660 ti just before the 2000 series came out and don't regret it although the £100 trade-in I got from Asus for my old card was the deciding factor!

It has proved pretty much perfect paired with a 9400f on a Z390 that I ended up with after my own personal Ryzen 3600 nightmare.

Did you post about your Ryzen Nightmare? Interested

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