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Help shaving cost on a tight budget

This will be my first full build and I would like to keep it under $450. I was trying to base this build off of Linus's 500 dollar build from 3 months ago. I would be using this build for gaming and I would like it to be able to keep up with 1080p 60fps for at least a couple of years. The final pricing I got was around $540 which a bit over what I would like to spend. As you can see I went for 16gb of ram rather than 8gb and a 500gb ssd rather than 1tb (I already have a 1tb hdd to use for other files). I don't know if it is a viable option to go for 2x4gb of ram for now and maybe add two more sticks later on. If there are any other cost saving measures I could take please let me know. Thanks!

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($85.86 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($62.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $464.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-17 13:01 EDT-0400

 

Get the 3200G instead. It's a faster chip with a usable iGPU. still has 16GB of fast ram because it gives you better upgradability to 32GB in the future. You can easily throw in a GPU down the road when you save up a little more. Meanwhile the iGPU should suffice. The ryzen platform has many more CPUs that you can upgrade to without changing the motherboard.

 

Other option is to just pick up an old Dell Optiplex or something with a 3rd or 4th gen i5 or i7, throw in a used RX 570/580.

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Depends on your games. Here's what I would go with if I had a tight budget.

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($85.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($72.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 570 4 GB RS XXX Video Card  ($129.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($60.23 @ Amazon) 
Total: $478.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-17 13:16 EDT-0400

 

If you don't plan on any upgrades whatsoever for the next two years, then I really don't recommend getting a CPU that has only four threads if you want to use this with newer games. In my opinion, you would be better off with a better CPU and only 8 GB of RAM, and even then, 8 GB is really pushing it.

 

At this low of a budget, you may find better luck upgrading a prebuilt than building a new PC from scratch or upgrading a PC you already built previously. Part of these nice custom PCs is that they're so modular that, in most cases, you can use existing hardware.

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19 minutes ago, LuckyZonkey said:

This will be my first full build and I would like to keep it under $450. I was trying to base this build off of Linus's 500 dollar build from 3 months ago. I would be using this build for gaming and I would like it to be able to keep up with 1080p 60fps for at least a couple of years. The final pricing I got was around $540 which a bit over what I would like to spend. As you can see I went for 16gb of ram rather than 8gb and a 500gb ssd rather than 1tb (I already have a 1tb hdd to use for other files). I don't know if it is a viable option to go for 2x4gb of ram for now and maybe add two more sticks later on. If there are any other cost saving measures I could take please let me know. Thanks!

 

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Linus did another test of the 3000g and found that having it work winds up being pretty dependent on how far you can overclock it which is random.  If you don’t do well in the silicon lottery big problems can occur.  One thought is a really small SSD to go with your HHD and set it up as drive cash.  It’s old school but it speeds things up.  If you already bought the 500gig SSD you could partition a piece of it off and do that.  A 3200g is a good option.  They’re about the speed of a 4770k (Or newer.  It’s what I got so it’s what I measure against) but with much better iGPU.  If you can find another $50, a 1600af is almost as good as a 2600, and they’re under a Benjamin (barely) atm.  It would need a GPU as well though so that might be a problem.  Used GPUs exist though.

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40 minutes ago, LuckyZonkey said:

This will be my first full build and I would like to keep it under $450. I was trying to base this build off of Linus's 500 dollar build from 3 months ago. I would be using this build for gaming and I would like it to be able to keep up with 1080p 60fps for at least a couple of years. The final pricing I got was around $540 which a bit over what I would like to spend. As you can see I went for 16gb of ram rather than 8gb and a 500gb ssd rather than 1tb (I already have a 1tb hdd to use for other files). I don't know if it is a viable option to go for 2x4gb of ram for now and maybe add two more sticks later on. If there are any other cost saving measures I could take please let me know. Thanks!

 

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What games do you play though?

CPU: Sempron 2500+ / P4 2.8E / P4 2.6C / A64 x2 4000+ / E6420 / E8500 / i5-3470 / i7-3770
GPU: TNT2 M64 / Radeon 9000 / MX 440-SE / 7300GT / Radeon 4670 / GTS 250 / Radeon 7950 / 660 Ti

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The 3200G is a Zen+ cpu and does not perform as well as the i3-9100F in most cases.

 

It is certainly possible to start with a 2x4GB memory kit and add a second kit later. The motherboard has to have 4 memory slots to do this. While the brand does not have to be the same the speed and timings should match.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8t97YJ/team-t-force-vulcan-tuf-gaming-allian-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tltyd416g3200hc16cdc01 is a better choice of memory kit.

 

Consider getting a less expensive ssd. While https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vBkj4D/western-digital-green-480-gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds480g2g0a does not perform as well as the WD Blue, the differences will not be noticeable. If budget is really pressed, you can opt for a 240GB ssd like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bpjJ7P/adata-su635-240-gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu635ss-240gq-r

 

Consider a better psu, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7L7YJ/corsair-cx-2017-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020120-na. 450W is more than enough for the build.

 

If you have to get below 500:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($77.97 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B360M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($75.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($38.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($169.99 @ Walmart) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($62.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $495.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-17 13:55 EDT-0400

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