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I first had a Amd x4 860k then upgraded to a Xeon1231v3. Its great but its defiantly bottlenecking my 1070. 
I got my CPU, Ram and Mobo for around £300. Its probably unlikely prices will be like that ever again. 

Id probably want to upgrade in the next year at some point. What would be a good upgrade for me?

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If you're using a GTX 1070 then I would recommend you get a Ryzen 7 3700X or an Intel i7 9700K. Server CPUs are not meant for gaming. Xeons bottleneck everything below GTX 1080 Ti.

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1 minute ago, HavocYTOfficial said:

If you're using a GTX 1070 then I would recommend you get a Ryzen 7 3700X or an Intel i7 9700K. Server CPUs are not meant for gaming. Xeons bottleneck everything below GTX 1080 Ti.

It performs the same as a i7 4790. That doesnt even make any sense... Not made for gaming. 
 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

I first had a Amd x4 860k then upgraded to a Xeon1231v3. Its great but its defiantly bottlenecking my 1070. 
I got my CPU, Ram and Mobo for around £300. Its probably unlikely prices will be like that ever again. 

Id probably want to upgrade in the next year at some point. What would be a good upgrade for me?

Thanks

The market is shifting so much at the moment, if I was you I would just wait and see what comes around.

but 3rd gen ryzen is your best bet at the moment.

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Just now, merco said:

If you want to upgrade in 2021 then you would have to wait for 2021 to arrive and then check what the best upgrade is for you at that time.

I mean in the next 12 months, Id probably get older hardware too as it'll be slightly cheaper. Depends tho. Just hoping for some good recommendations on current cpu's that are out. 

 

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8 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

I got my CPU, Ram and Mobo for around £300. Its probably unlikely prices will be like that ever again. 

not sure what you mean by this, that CPU, ram, and mobo combo can be bought for like £100. As for what £300 can get you today:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £163.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Box Limited
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £74.55 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £328.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 16:18 BST+0100  

 

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Just now, William23r said:

The marketing is shifting so much at the moment, if I was you I would just wait and see what comes around.

For sure. Just seeing what people think on current cpu's as the prices might drop on say an i7 9700k so Id wanna be sure it'll be worth for me If the price is right. 

 

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

not sure what you mean by this, that CPU, ram, and mobo combo can be bought for like £100. As for what £300 can get you today:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £163.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Box Limited
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £74.55 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £328.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 16:18 BST+0100  

 

Its what I paid in 2015 I think it was. Xeon was £210, Ram £36 and mobo £32. Cooler was £16 I think. Now an i7 is £350+


Edit:: Thats not a bad deal. 

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £163.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £69.99 @ Ebuyer
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £74.55 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £308.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 16:17 BST+0100  

If you're looking to upgrade now, then this would be the best option around the £300 mark.

 

6 minutes ago, HavocYTOfficial said:

If you're using a GTX 1070 then I would recommend you get a Ryzen 7 3700X or an Intel i7 9700K. Server CPUs are not meant for gaming. Xeons bottleneck everything below GTX 1080 Ti.

That Xeon is pretty much equivalent to a 4770/4790, and you don't need a 3700X or a 9700K for a GTX 1070.

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2 minutes ago, cheiften98 said:

It performs the same as a i7 4790. That doesnt even make any sense... Not made for gaming. 
 

 

Games require higher single core clocks but xeons only have more core with lesser clock speed and lesser power consumption which is only ideal for workstations and servers. That's why xeons are "server" CPUs.

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4 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

lmao.

 

R5 3600 and a B450 board. cheap enough to get and makes for a solid little system

Bruh remember he has a GTX 1070.

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Just now, cheiften98 said:

I mean in the next 12 months, Id probably get older hardware too as it'll be slightly cheaper. Depends tho. Just hoping for some good recommendations on current cpu's that are out. 

I see, I would agree with yaboistar then. Right now I can find 16gb 3200 ddr4 ram for around £75, r5 3600 around £150 and a good b450 board like the tomahawk max for around £100 in the UK. 

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2 minutes ago, HavocYTOfficial said:

Games require higher single core clocks but xeons only have more core with lesser clock speed and lesser power consumption which is only ideal for workstations and servers. That's why xeons are "server" CPUs.

this specific has the exact same configuration as an i7 of the era. 3.8GHz boost with 4 cores and 8 threads. It is basically an i7-4770.  For the majority of cases, that's pretty good with a GTX 1070, but if OP has shifted interest towards 144fps gameplay or more demanding AAA titles, that's where the bottleneck comes from.

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £163.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £69.99 @ Ebuyer
Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £74.55 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £308.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 16:17 BST+0100  

If you're looking to upgrade now, then this would be the best option around the £300 mark.

 

That Xeon is pretty much equivalent to a 4770/4790, and you don't need a 3700X or a 9700K for a GTX 1070.

You need clock speeds mate. Those xeons are meant for multi threaded stuff. And gaming needs more clock speed per thread. Not much games can take advantage of multi threading.

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When I upgraded to my Xeon I did have a gtx 750ti at the time then upgraded to a 960. Id like the CPU to last a good time through gpu upgrades. 

Currently im leaning towards Ryzen 3700x or i7 9700k. 

 

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

this specific has the exact same configuration as an i7 of the era. 3.8GHz boost with 4 cores and 8 threads. It is basically an i7-4770. 

Yeah but i7 9700K is newer so it comes with its own benefits.

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Just now, HavocYTOfficial said:

Yeah but i7 9700K is newer so it comes with its own benefits.

yeah but that's not what you said, you said xeons have more cores and low clocks. However, xeons that share configurations of i7 models are just as good for gaming. And still, Ryzen is better in this price range.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, HavocYTOfficial said:

lesser clock speed and lesser power consumption which is only ideal for workstations and servers. That's why xeons are "server" CPUs.

You have no idea what you are talking about

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2 minutes ago, HavocYTOfficial said:

You need clock speeds mate. Those xeons are meant for multi threaded stuff. And gaming needs more clock speed per thread. Not much games can take advantage of multi threading.

3-4ghz is still fine now days. And no you wont need that much clock speed. Xeons are okay for gaming.

 

and xeaons actually consume very much power.

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Just now, cheiften98 said:

When I upgraded to my Xeon I did have a gtx 750ti at the time then upgraded to a 960. Id like the CPU to last a good time through gpu upgrades. 

Currently im leaning towards Ryzen 3700x or i7 9700k. 

Ryzens have more cpu control software and other bells and whistles with it. It's your choice.

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

this specific has the exact same configuration as an i7 of the era. 3.8GHz boost with 4 cores and 8 threads. It is basically an i7-4770.  For the majority of cases, that's pretty good with a GTX 1070, but if OP has shifted interest towards 144fps gameplay or more demanding AAA titles, that's where the bottleneck comes from.

Yep, I did get a 144hz monitor for xmas, soo nice. AAA games are bottlnecked by my CPU tho, mainly because they dont use hyper threading. so my cpu will be at 50% and gpu at 80-90%

 

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1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

You have no idea what you are talking about

I often will say I have an i7 4790. Its pretty silly. 

 

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i7 9700k is on par in gaming with the ryzen 7 3700x. the r7 3700x has 8 more threads for the future and workloads.

in the future when games start to use more than 8 threads, the ryzen 7 3700x will ryze and beat i7 9700k.

i7 9700k is on weird spot rn.

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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1 minute ago, cheiften98 said:

Yep, I did get a 144hz monitor for xmas, soo nice. AAA games are bottlnecked by my CPU tho, mainly because they dont use hyper threading. so my cpu will be at 50% and gpu at 80-90%

With the GPU at 90%, sounds more like it's the weak point.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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