I think the numbers are getting too long now - Desktop Comet lake announcing April 30 + Tiger lake found

[williamcll]

Obviously after the announcement of the laptop processors, Intel is going to showcase their next generation Desktop CPU, how it performs compared to Ryzen 3rd Gen is still up in the air. Source below roughly translated from spanish

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It's time to brighten up the day, and for this nothing better than revealing the release date of Intel Comet Lake-S processors for desktops thanks to my international sources (those that throw a lot of water), and this date will take place on next April 30 . Be careful, that day is only to announce the processors and motherboards, the first benchmarks and reviews would not arrive until the second week of May , unless everything leaks before, of course

Unfortunately for Intel, all the interesting Rocket Lake-S information has already been leaked , resulting in Comet Lake-S making its debut on the market as a poor product, devoid of interest and, why deny it, outdated , Well, it is still the Skylake @ 14nm architecture where the only improvement is to keep turning the silicon upside down and where the only novelty is to bring us 10-core and 20-wire processors that will be difficult to cool when consuming more than 300W of power at full performance . If we add to this that we will require a new motherboard with the LGA1200 socket , it all adds up to make it a launch without penalty or glory.

From videocardz:

 

Elsewhere, the next generation 10nm Tiger lake mobile CPU has been found on 3D Mark: note much higher boost clocks compared to the last generation i7-1085G7

 

Source: https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2020/03/exclusiva-los-intel-comet-lake-s-se-anunciaran-el-proximo-30-de-abril/
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-10900k-core-i7-10700k-and-core-i5-10600k-marketing-materials-leak

Thoughts: I'll wait for the reviews, maybe Intel can still make miracles here, but the leaked benchmarks in past threads aren't looking so good.

[Lakobrija]

Whats up with all that different boost names and parameters

[GDRRiley]

1 hour ago, Lakobrija said:

Whats up with all that different boost names and parameters

turbo is based on cores. all core is the max of using all the cores to expect with good cooling. thermal velocity breaks both of them if the chip meets certain power and thermal limits. 

intel is basically doing something like amd precision boost but can't name it well.

 

man all those I-3 are DOA for any custom builds. this entire gen just seems like it isn't going to matter. wow you got .2 ghz out of it but also made power skyrocket.

[Techstorm970]

When the i7-7700K is an i3 less than 4 years later.

 

 

Thanks AMD!!!

[CephDigital]

Intel, why is there 6 different i5's? Granted, AMD has 4 different SKUs for their R5 but still, why 6??? And this doesn't even take into account the potential T CPUs as well!

At least with AMD, they do vary quite differently (one is 4 cores iGPU SMT, 6 cores no iGPU no SMG, 6 cores no iGPU has SMT) except for thr X parts but with yours, it's just clock speed differences!

Facking hell this is overdone. Just have a variant with and without an iGPU and allow overclocking on all SKUs. You don't need more than 2 SKUs, maybe 3 for a low power option.

[mr moose]

5 minutes ago, TheUberMedic said:

Facking hell this is overdone. Just have a variant with and without an iGPU and allow overclocking on all SKUs. You don't need more than 2 SKUs, maybe 3 for a low power option.

 

The chips they don't allow overclocking on are usually lower binned, so they lock them and sell them cheaper.  If you want them to unlock all of them then the better binned K chips lose their value (you wouldn't know if you were getting something that was only capable of box specs or something that could actually be pushed).

 

 

[thorhammerz]

9 minutes ago, TheUberMedic said:

Intel, why is there 6 different i5's? Granted, AMD has 4 different SKUs for their R5 but still, why 6??? 

Why not 16?

 

The consumer gets to spend exactly the amount they can pony up (notable difference versus what what they want or should spend), and Intel gets to deliver only as much performance as the customer (over)pays for. 

 

Good for Intel, if they can somehow push through their inventory against their currently superior competition.

[Kamina]

On 4/5/2020 at 7:13 PM, Techstorm970 said:

When the i7-7700K is an i3 less than 4 years later.

 

 

Thanks AMD!!!

It's like I'm running an i2 or pentium because I have no hyperthreading. ;__;

[williamcll]

Here is a tidbit: comparisons between the i7-10700T and the R7 4800H (the higher power non-S model)

source: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14904070

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15358637

[TechyBen]

On 4/6/2020 at 3:43 AM, VegetableStu said:

intel needs to successfully shrink to produce for their entire stack (possibly every single thing at this point. mainstream, server, and low-power/mobile). also i might bet this run would be a little less in production, in case they risk not selling the whole lot of them. that is all

Production returns. They have to do this if every chip does not produce a top end "magic lottery silicon". If every chip was perfect they could 3 or so skus (exaggeration  ) and let the OEMs clock them for the laptops/desktops. But if the results are irregular, they need to find places for each chip and it's active/deactive regons.

[porina]

38 minutes ago, williamcll said:

Here is a tidbit: comparisons between the i7-10700T and the R7 4800H (the higher power non-S model)

Do note that Intel T parts are 35W TDP, and the AMD H parts are 45W TDP. Both sides may exceed TDP if the system manufacturer allows it, and there is the thermal headroom to do so. I don't know about AIOs but generally speaking in laptops where these lower power parts are used they tend to stick to TDP.

 

Putting aside the AMD CPU may have another 10W to chew on, even at equal power I'd expect the Ryzen to be more efficient overall, even offsetting potential efficiency benefits from Intel having 2 more cores.

[RejZoR]

On 4/6/2020 at 4:13 AM, Techstorm970 said:

When the i7-7700K is an i3 less than 4 years later.

 

 

Thanks AMD!!!

Realistically, we had 4c/8t back when Nehalem was a thing Core i7 900 series. That's some 12 years ago... All it has is some more instructions and higher clock. 7700K was i3 basically when it came out.