troubleshoot Ryzen 5 1600 AF won't post on a B450 ASRock board

[Studa]

Hi everyone, just bought myself a Ryzen 5 1600 AF (12nm model) and it doesn't give me a post on a ASRock B450 Steel Legend. It runs for about 20 seconds with all the rgb and fans spinning then shuts itself down and runs again (quite funny loop but not what I was expecting )

 

Tried literally everything that has gotten to my mind:

1. Checked all the memory sticks in both single channel and dual (G.Skill Ripjaws 3200 8gb models)

2. Updated BIOS to 3.2 and cleared CMOS with 1600 AF installed (3.2 BIOS is listed as a must for 1600 AF model on ASRock CPU compatibility table)

3. Checked all the power connectors and the power supply is Corsair CX750, so quite enough for a combo with 1070 EVGA

4. Tested the mobo with R3 1200 that I had previously and it worked perfect with both stable 3.9 OC and memory at 3.0 GHz with 16 timings

 

Does anyone have ideas regarding this problem and should I just return CPU to the shop and go for 5 3600 with some more savings ?

[GDRRiley]

update the bios to the latest not just the minimum that supports the 1600AF

[Studa]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

update the bios to the latest not just the minimum that supports the 1600AF

That's the thing the latest BIOS is the one that supports 1600 AF (version 3.2)

[GDRRiley]

clear the bios and try the chip

[Studa]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

clear the bios and try the chip

Also have done it already several times

[GDRRiley]

2 minutes ago, Studa said:

Also have done it already several times

any beeps/codes?

[Studa]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

any beeps/codes?

No, board does not have display for post codes and haven't heard any beeps either

It tries to boot and after a failed boot tries to do it again for unlimited number of times

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

21 minutes ago, Studa said:

 

1600 AF is Pinnacle ridge chip and going off of the BIOS page the highest you should of went is to 2.63B.

[Studa]

Just now, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

1600 AF is Pinnacle and going off of the BIOS page the highest you should of went is to 2.63B.

Officical website is listing 3.2 as a must for compatibility with 1600 AF (see screenshot) 

 

And before updating it also tried to boot on 2.6 version with the same result

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

Just now, Studa said:

Officical website is listing 3.2 as a must for compatibility with 1600 AF (see screenshot) 

 

And before updating it also tried to boot on 2.6 version with the same result

Odd that it states on the BIOS page to not use that with Pinnacle architecture. Wouldn't hurt giving it a shot. Sucks there's no clear answer.

[Studa]

Just now, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

Odd that it states on the BIOS page to not use that with Pinnacle architecture. Wouldn't hurt giving it a shot. Sucks there's no clear answer.

Would it be ok to downgrade from 3.2 to 2.63B?

I saw that downgrading to 2.6 and lower after upgrading to 2.63B is impossible but don't see anything regarding higher versions

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

2 minutes ago, Studa said:

Would it be ok to downgrade from 3.2 to 2.63B?

I saw that downgrading to 2.6 and lower after upgrading to 2.63B is impossible but don't see anything regarding higher versions

I wouldn't see it being a issue at all. It doesn't state it's a issue downgrading from 3.2. But it does on other versions like you said. 

[Studa]

Just now, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

I wouldn't see it being a issue at all. It doesn't state it's a issue downgrading from 3.2. But it does on other versions like you said. 

Thanks, I will try it out and see if it helps

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

19 minutes ago, Studa said:

Thanks, I will try it out and see if it helps

Hoping it works. Trouble shooting can be frustrating and rewarding at the same time. Then at the end you feel like you could write a book about the shit you learned. 

[Studa]

14 hours ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

Hoping it works. Trouble shooting can be frustrating and rewarding at the same time. Then at the end you feel like you could write a book about the shit you learned. 

And it still doesn't work at all, tried all the bios versions from 2.63B up to 3.2 and none of those helped

That's quite and interesting troubleshoot

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

6 hours ago, Studa said:

And it still doesn't work at all, tried all the bios versions from 2.63B up to 3.2 and none of those helped

That's quite and interesting troubleshoot

I feel for ya. Anyway to RMA the MoBo?

[toasty99]

You definitely need to be on 2.63B. Flash 2.63B then pull the CMOS battery for 20 seconds. 

 

Also, make sure all the power connections are tight. I know,  "but I already checked that". Check it again. Shove that 24 pin connector into that motherboard hard. Put some force on everything. Make 110 percent sure none of it is loose. 

 

 

Again another big one that would do this: Make sure you GPU is actually in the Pci-e slot. Shove it in hard. 

[Studa]

1 hour ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

I feel for ya. Anyway to RMA the MoBo?

MoBo is not available to return due to outdated warranty period, so either will try r5 2600 on it or resell it. The weirdest thing is that r3 1200 is working properly with almost max overclock and with quite not so small memo overclock too

[Studa]

51 minutes ago, toasty99 said:

You definitely need to be on 2.63B. Flash 2.63B then pull the CMOS battery for 20 seconds. 

 

Also, make sure all the power connections are tight. I know,  "but I already checked that". Check it again. Shove that 24 pin connector into that motherboard hard. Put some force on everything. Make 110 percent sure none of it is loose. 

 

 

Again another big one that would do this: Make sure you GPU is actually in the Pci-e slot. Shove it in hard. 

Yeah, I know, I checked everything properly enormous margin of times and today tried with 2.63B and clearing the board with both clrcmos pins and battery removal.

 

GPU and Pci-e slot are also quite fine because the pc is working and the only difference in config between two states is different processors 

[svmlegacy]

23 hours ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

Odd that it states on the BIOS page to not use that with Pinnacle architecture. Wouldn't hurt giving it a shot. Sucks there's no clear answer.

Yes, but why does it say that? ASRock is pretty clear they don't want people to update BIOS unless necessary. If you're running those architectures, (aside from the AF), you don't need to.

 

Bring it up to latest BIOS, no matter what CPU you are using. Downgrading BIOS's gets a little bit weird, and I'd highly NOT recommend that.

 

Have you tested the AF in another motherboard?

[toasty99]

4 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Yes, but why does it say that? ASRock is pretty clear they don't want people to update BIOS unless necessary. If you're running those architectures, (aside from the AF), you don't need to.

 

Bring it up to latest BIOS, no matter what CPU you are using. Downgrading BIOS's gets a little bit weird, and I'd highly NOT recommend that.

 

Have you tested the AF in another motherboard?

I'm actually thinking the AF may be the issue as well if the 1200 is working fine. 

 

I guess grab a magnifying glass and see if there are any bent pins. 

 

If not, I'm stumped as well. Guess you would need to test another motherboard with the 1600AF or another 1600AF in the motherboard. I'd probably just RMA  the 1600AF if you can and see if that fixes it. 

[Mister Woof]

you plugged it into the GPU, right?

[Studa]

8 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Yes, but why does it say that? ASRock is pretty clear they don't want people to update BIOS unless necessary. If you're running those architectures, (aside from the AF), you don't need to.

 

Bring it up to latest BIOS, no matter what CPU you are using. Downgrading BIOS's gets a little bit weird, and I'd highly NOT recommend that.

 

Have you tested the AF in another motherboard?

Not yet, but going to in a couple of days, not so much of my friends got am4 platform, still all Intel of am3

[Studa]

5 minutes ago, toasty99 said:

I'm actually thinking the AF may be the issue as well if the 1200 is working fine. 

 

I guess grab a magnifying glass and see if there are any bent pins. 

 

If not, I'm stumped as well. Guess you would need to test another motherboard. 

Nope, no bent pins whatsoever, rather r3 1200 was a bit bent after rather harsh removal together with a CPu tower but I got it fixed and it's working properly

[Studa]

5 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

you plugged it into the GPU, right?

Yeah, I have only DP for monitor and as far as I know this board don't have a DP output