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I've built a few systems in my time, and I haven't really had something like this happen to this degree before.

 

My friend's system is running an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with AMD's stock cooler. Ryzen Master is reporting idle temps between 65-85 degrees with things like opening up a game or application (i.e. League of Legends) spiking temps up to 95 degrees. This is way higher than it should be, and I'm starting to think that it's an airflow issue (as there's no intake and only a single exhaust fan, though there are gaps and holes in the case for 4 more fans if we ever wanted opt it. It's not a completely enclosed case).

 

After using Noctua thermal paste in place of AMD's original thermal paste, temperatures actually shifted higher. Even with a cool, well ventilated room and the side panel completely open, temps still won't drop below 65 degrees. Game stability (at least in testing CS:GO) seems to vary, with FPS moving between 90-300 and is quite frequently skewed towards 100 FPS which is also abnormal. 

 

Any ideas on a fix?

 

 

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Check that the cooler is mounted correctly. Or get a better cooler. Yes the temps should not be that high. I suggest you to get intake fans

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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4 minutes ago, Elucidated said:

I've built a few systems in my time, and I haven't really had something like this happen to this degree before.

 

My friend's system is running an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with AMD's stock cooler. Ryzen Master is reporting idle temps between 65-85 degrees with things like opening up a game or application (i.e. League of Legends) spiking temps up to 95 degrees. This is way higher than it should be, and I'm starting to think that it's an airflow issue (as there's no intake and only a single exhaust fan, though there are gaps and holes in the case for 4 more fans if we ever wanted opt it. It's not a completely enclosed case).

 

After using Noctua thermal paste in place of AMD's original thermal paste, temperatures actually shifted higher. Even with a cool, well ventilated room and the side panel completely open, temps still won't drop below 65 degrees. Game stability (at least in testing CS:GO) seems to vary, with FPS moving between 90-300 and is quite frequently skewed towards 100 FPS which is also abnormal. 

 

Any ideas on a fix?

 

 

is it overclocked or over volted? 

it may not be reporting temps correct try another program?

too much too little thermal paste?

and my personal favorite is the cpu cooler not tight enough?

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Airflow has nothing to do with that temperatures. You can add 10 fans and you'll end with the same results.

First - heat from CPU is given away by radiator. Then heat from radiator is blow out by fan. These two parts are most important and if you have temperatures that high, your radiator is probably mounted bad.

 

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2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Check that the cooler is mounted correctly. Or get a better cooler. Yes the temps should not be that high. I suggest you to get intake fans

Id normally agree but isnt intake fans a moot point since he took the side panel off and temps are still high?

 

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Just now, bronsonj said:

is it overclocked or over volted? 

it may not be reporting temps correct try another program?

too much too little thermal paste?

and my personal favorite is the cpu cooler not tight enough?

Stock clocks, same temperatures using HWiNFO, thermal paste is fine, mount pressure is fine. It honestly might be the lack of intake fans but with an open case and bad temperatures, I'm starting to think otherwise.

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Mount the cooler very tight. go to ryzen master and set voltage to 1.35-1.38 and gz to 3.6 - 4 and try gain

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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Just now, Elucidated said:

Stock clocks, same temperatures using HWiNFO, thermal paste is fine, mount pressure is fine. It honestly might be the lack of intake fans but with an open case and bad temperatures, I'm starting to think otherwise.

just for a sanity check pull the cooler and put it back on?

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If we're talking about voltages, then in case Ryzen, if you want to lower them, do not use fixed voltage. Use adaptive mode and set offset to -0.05V.

 

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3 hours ago, Elucidated said:

Stock clocks, same temperatures using HWiNFO, thermal paste is fine, mount pressure is fine. It honestly might be the lack of intake fans but with an open case and bad temperatures, I'm starting to think otherwise.

Is the fan spinning? Do you get high temps just in BIOS?

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