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Hidden Bottleneck?!?!? RTX 2080 Ti

Hey Guys,

 

so today I upgraded from my Radeon RX Vega 56 to a Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti but i don't seem to be getting much more FPS and the Usage of my GPU and CPU are hovering at around 50-70 Percent. 

 

My Rig:

GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

Driver Version 445.75

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

16Gb of RAM 

 

I feel like with this setup i should be getting a stable 144 FPS on Max settings @ 1080p on Call of Duty: MW Warzone. Currently i'm at 90-120 FPS, pretty much the same as with my Vega 56. Although i have noticed that when i am in game, my HDD usage peaks to 100% there is no way this could be the bottleneck or?

 

PS. I know that 120 FPS is still very playable but i feel like I could be getting more out of my GPU...

 

Any help is much appreciated, thank you. 

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That's online play, completely different than offline play.  And the bottleneck is likely that.  But after that the bottleneck on that GPU will be slight with a low single core score.

 

EDIT - quick clarification, online games rely on Ethernet latency to tell you new sprites just showed up on your screen, which then have to see if in RAM, if not it has to find on SSD, then add to RAM/VRAM to access.  Offline games typically load up/precache everything you need for that scenario (basically).  

Prime example in WoW raiding my RR2 in sig gets the exact same FPS as my buddies 9900k + 2080ti Kingpin all settings maxed when the screen is completely filled with sprites/appearing textures.

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22 minutes ago, Santach said:

Hey Guys,

 

so today I upgraded from my Radeon RX Vega 56 to a Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti but i don't seem to be getting much more FPS and the Usage of my GPU and CPU are hovering at around 50-70 Percent. 

 

My Rig:

GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

Driver Version 445.75

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

16Gb of RAM 

 

I feel like with this setup i should be getting a stable 144 FPS on Max settings @ 1080p on Call of Duty: MW Warzone. Currently i'm at 90-120 FPS, pretty much the same as with my Vega 56. Although i have noticed that when i am in game, my HDD usage peaks to 100% there is no way this could be the bottleneck or?

 

PS. I know that 120 FPS is still very playable but i feel like I could be getting more out of my GPU...

 

Any help is much appreciated, thank you. 

Try switching to a different resolution and if the fps is relatively the same then yes you do have a bottleneck

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15 hours ago, Tristerin said:

That's online play, completely different than offline play.  And the bottleneck is likely that.  But after that the bottleneck on that GPU will be slight with a low single core score.

 

EDIT - quick clarification, online games rely on Ethernet latency to tell you new sprites just showed up on your screen, which then have to see if in RAM, if not it has to find on SSD, then add to RAM/VRAM to access.  Offline games typically load up/precache everything you need for that scenario (basically).  

Prime example in WoW raiding my RR2 in sig gets the exact same FPS as my buddies 9900k + 2080ti Kingpin all settings maxed when the screen is completely filled with sprites/appearing textures.

So now i added an SSD that i had laying around and moved the game files to it. This didn't solve the problem either.

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14 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

Try switching to a different resolution and if the fps is relatively the same then yes you do have a bottleneck

I changed the resolution down to 66% percent of 1920 * 1080 (The minimum the game allows) and the FPS stayed the same but the GPU usage went even further down. to like 40 - 50%. When i put the resolution to 4K the GPU usage went to 95% and i ended up getting 70-80 FPS. Is my CPU bottlenecking my system?

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1 hour ago, Santach said:

I changed the resolution down to 66% percent of 1920 * 1080 (The minimum the game allows) and the FPS stayed the same but the GPU usage went even further down. to like 40 - 50%. When i put the resolution to 4K the GPU usage went to 95% and i ended up getting 70-80 FPS. Is my CPU bottlenecking my system?

While its a great chip, its single core IPC isn't the markets best to push a 2080 ti.  So likely a slight bottleneck there.  But online play isnt the same - what is your offline play FPS?

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17 hours ago, Santach said:

Hey Guys,

 

so today I upgraded from my Radeon RX Vega 56 to a Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti but i don't seem to be getting much more FPS and the Usage of my GPU and CPU are hovering at around 50-70 Percent. 

 

My Rig:

GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

Driver Version 445.75

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

16Gb of RAM 

 

I feel like with this setup i should be getting a stable 144 FPS on Max settings @ 1080p on Call of Duty: MW Warzone. Currently i'm at 90-120 FPS, pretty much the same as with my Vega 56. Although i have noticed that when i am in game, my HDD usage peaks to 100% there is no way this could be the bottleneck or?

 

PS. I know that 120 FPS is still very playable but i feel like I could be getting more out of my GPU...

 

Any help is much appreciated, thank you. 

the 2600x is a bottleneck for the 2080 ti, in particular shooters, mw, division 2,  maybe apex,  even poe, if you are trying to hit 144hz.

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On 3/25/2020 at 2:09 PM, xg32 said:

the 2600x is a bottleneck for the 2080 ti, in particular shooters, mw, division 2,  maybe apex,  even poe, if you are trying to hit 144hz.

Thank you and sorry for the late response. What CPU would you say would reduce the bottleneck, Its an AM4 socket. Also notable that the CPU doesnt even reach 60 percent usage most of the time. Can the CPU bottleneck without reaching 100 percent Usage?

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On 3/25/2020 at 1:46 PM, Tristerin said:

While its a great chip, its single core IPC isn't the markets best to push a 2080 ti.  So likely a slight bottleneck there.  But online play isnt the same - what is your offline play FPS?

I just played some campaign and it isn't much better if not even worse...

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26 minutes ago, Santach said:

Thank you and sorry for the late response. What CPU would you say would reduce the bottleneck, Its an AM4 socket. Also notable that the CPU doesnt even reach 60 percent usage most of the time. Can the CPU bottleneck without reaching 100 percent Usage?

Correct, think of it this way:

 

CPU has 1 second to either build enough frames to max out the GPU to 100% usage.  If CPU can do this at 30% utilization to a core, we have no bottleneck (basically).  If a CPU is only @ 30% usage and the GPU @ 70% usage for example, that means in 1 second the CPU could build enough frame time for the GPU to only need to work at 70% power (basically) to produce in that 1 second.  Once that 1 second is over it restarts.  The CPU just doesn't have time to even reach 100% in that 1 second.

 

 

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