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LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19

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This event has ended and I recommend you guys head over to the Folding Community Board for any general folding conversation. 

 

 

Also, what are these badges people speak of?

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1 minute ago, NZKshatriya said:

Also, what are these badges people speak of?

This is where you request them, They appear under your username, like mine (FAH Silver and BOINC Member)

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1 minute ago, NZKshatriya said:

Also, what are these badges people speak of?

Here they are:

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Just now, jctappel67 said:

This is where you request them, They appear under your username, like mine, FAH Silver and BOINC Member

Ah.  Brain's sorta gone the way of my sanity over the past few weeks.

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Just now, NZKshatriya said:

Ah.  Brain's sorta gone the way of my sanity over the past few weeks.

Tell me about it! Feel in full isolation for a few weeks now, then the event on top LMFAO

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8 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

I've wanted a 2080Ti for a while for comparative purposes but what always stopped me was it's lack of value.

 

The other potential gotcha is not all WUs are big ones so while you might get more that 3MPPD on some you wont always which drops the effective PPD down.

 

You can roughly extrapolate the maximal PPD performance of a 2080Ti by taking your known values for cards you have and using the ratio of TFLOPs from sites like TechPowerup. I haven't found the QRB makes that significant a difference between calculated versus observed between a 2070 Super and 2080 Super.

 

The value part (PPD/$), however, is only part of what you should be considering. As Spectrum mentions another part is efficiency (PPD/W) and also other considerations such as the incremental cost of feeding it (the portion of the system overhead cost for mobo, cpu, ram, ps, case, ssd). If your just running one or two systems and want to maximize your output then the 2080Ti may make sense if you can fork out the up-front cost.

Would you know how does mining gear do compared to consumer cards?

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Just now, thomas2000 said:

Would you know how does mining gear do compared to consumer cards?

Faxon on the discord I think was playing with some mining cards 

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3 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Tell me about it! Feel in full isolation for a few weeks now, then the event on top LMFAO

lol.

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24 minutes ago, thomas2000 said:

Would you know how does mining gear do compared to consumer cards?

it doesnt - mining risers and motheboard setups SEVERELY limit what you can do.  Im talking about a 50-75% reduction in PPD.

 

i ended up just building rigs and using the m2 slots to bifurcate to 6 card machines.  Trying to fold on mining stuff was almost useless.

 

gorgon helped me with alot of the setup, so credit goes to him.

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14 minutes ago, thomas2000 said:

Would you know how does mining gear do compared to consumer cards?

I can't give you any hard data as I don't own any of the mining-specific cards. Most are based on the GTX 1060 GP106 silicon (4.375 TFLOPs) so I'd guess about the same as a 1060 at 450-550kPPD but some of those could be based on the the cut-down chip used for the 3GB versions (GP106-300A - 3.935 TFLOPs)) and so would scale down about 9.5% slower ((4.375-3.935)/4.375) in performance.

 

Limited VRAM should have no impact on folding.

 

I've seen several posts where people were going to pull the trigger and order these but despite requesting they provide hard numbers I've never seen any data.

 

So the silicon is rather old and unless they were under $50US shipped or so I'd say that someone would be better off taking those funds are saving them towards a 1660Ti at 10.87TFLOPs

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2 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

We will see a production drop, that is normal, but yeah, not seeing a 50% decrease as you are indicating...

I would think so, after all I can't believe that I would be a rare case on anything, and I started folding again because Covid-19 + Wan Show. Didn't even join the prize event. Just folding. For LTT team. Because why not?

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Just now, Cabanaj said:

I would think so, after all I can't believe that I would be a rare case on anything, and I started folding again because Covid-19 + Wan Show. Didn't even join the prize event. Just folding. For LTT team. Because why not?

LOL, as the EVGA promotion got to be so ludicrous with the hardware I am running at present, I was merely giving away WUs.

So, decided to give WUs to the King of Drops team.

 

If I get a steam key it would be fun, but really not why I switched over either.

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9 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

I can't give you any hard data as I don't own any of the mining-specific cards. Most are based on the GTX 1060 GP106 silicon (4.375 TFLOPs) so I'd guess about the same as a 1060 at 450-550kPPD but some of those could be based on the the cut-down chip used for the 3GB versions (GP106-300A - 3.935 TFLOPs)) and so would scale down about 9.5% slower ((4.375-3.935)/4.375) in performance.

 

Limited VRAM should have no impact on folding.

 

I've seen several posts where people were going to pull the trigger and order these but despite requesting they provide hard numbers I've never seen any data.

 

So the silicon is rather old and unless they were under $50US shipped or so I'd say that someone would be better off taking those funds are saving them towards a 1660Ti at 10.87TFLOPs

I grabbed a P106-100 for $90 shipped recently and that was the cheapest I could find. It's going to be in a dedicated GPU only folding rig in the basement where noise and temps aren't a concern. I looked at 1660 or 1650 but the prices were above what I was willing to spend and if I'm buying a GPU with video outputs that I can use for something else I KNOW it won't end up staying in the folding rig and then that defeats the purpose of that!

 

I looked into getting a used Tesla card but those prices are still absurdly high. Even the older Grid K1 is still above $200 but the specs don't look awful for the wattage used...right? Ooo there's a few for under $200. Bad deal?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/grid-k1.c1699

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8 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I grabbed a P106-100 for $90 shipped recently and that was the cheapest I could find. It's going to be in a dedicated GPU only folding rig in the basement where noise and temps aren't a concern. I looked at 1660 or 1650 but the prices were above what I was willing to spend and if I'm buying a GPU with video outputs that I can use for something else I KNOW it won't end up staying in the folding rig and then that defeats the purpose of that!

 

I looked into getting a used Tesla card but those prices are still absurdly high. Even the older Grid K1 is still above $200 but the specs don't look awful for the wattage used...right? Ooo there's a few for under $200. Bad deal?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/grid-k1.c1699

Can't speak to those either but the over-clockers spreadsheet might have them but you'd have to scale for differences between Core 21 and 22

 

Edit - my preference is to buy new cards with a robust cooling system and a good warranty.

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5 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Can't speak to those either but the over-clockers spreadsheet might have them but you'd have to scale for differences between Core 21 and 22

 

Edit - my preference is to buy new cards with a robust cooling system and a good warranty.

I don't see them on there

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I managed a million points during the event, despite having pretty old, medium-end hardware. Too bad signups for the event ended about four hours before I discovered this thread and found out we had to sign up in advance. I still think LMG should have a special give-away for the person who happens to run the 10 Millionth WU.

 

I also spun up a disused computer to fold with 23 (very slow) Xeon cores, though sadly its Quadro card couldn't cut the mustard. More importantly I got my wife and maybe one or two other people to join in, though they probably didn't join the LTT team.

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There was an event? Shoot, I think I pulled in about 9 million over the last 14 days. Where do we see these event signups?

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13 minutes ago, hammerquill said:

I managed a million points during the event, despite having pretty old, medium-end hardware. Too bad signups for the event ended about four hours before I discovered this thread and found out we had to sign up in advance. I still think LMG should have a special give-away for the person who happens to run the 10 Millionth WU.

 

I also spun up a disused computer to fold with 23 (very slow) Xeon cores, though sadly its Quadro card couldn't cut the mustard. More importantly I got my wife and maybe one or two other people to join in, though they probably didn't join the LTT team.

heh, I wonder......if Linus has an i7-9900(doesn't have to be K) that he has dropped several times......if he would part with it lol.  Love that my laptop takes desktop chips.

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Ahhh there I am 5491st! It’s the taking part that counts haha 😂
 

i think it may be time to replace the 8 year  laptop so something with more power. 
 

The i7-2670QM and GT540M were kicking out some serious heat whilst folding!

 

good work to everyone!

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56 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I looked into getting a used Tesla card but those prices are still absurdly high. Even the older Grid K1 is still above $200 but the specs don't look awful for the wattage used...right? Ooo there's a few for under $200. Bad deal?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/grid-k1.c1699

Apparently Tesla cards won't work for folding. This according to one person on the folding@home forum:

[EDIT: others have contradicted this with evidence; newer Tesla cards apparently fold no problem.]

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=324404#p324404

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No Tesla card can fold, (Core_15 was a good Tesla Core) It does not support OpenCL 1.2. If it could fold, it could not make deadlines. (today's entry level GT 1030 is about twice as fast as 2008's professional card)

I was asking why my Quadro FX 4800, whose machine I had taken the time to dust off and update the OS on just for this, was being refused work units.

 

The GPU list there, https://apps.foldingathome.org/GPUs.txt, is a bit confusing. It is not a whitelist. You find your card on there, it just means it has been tested. Here's the entry for Quadro FX 4800:

 

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0x10de:0x05fe:::GT200GL [Quadro FX 4800]

I assumed from the way people talked about it, without explanation, that that meant it was good to use. In fact, if there's no number (or a zero) in between the second, third, and fourth colons, that means the card can't do useful work for the folding project, as is the case here. It's way too subtle, and if you search for information about it, people on the forum will refer you to the list as a whitelist. If it has a nonzero quantity in those two fields, you should be good to go, though, from what I understand. My GTX670 has been churning away all month.

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2 minutes ago, hammerquill said:

Apparently Tesla cards won't work for folding. This according to one person on the folding@home forum:

Definitely not true. There were several people, including myself, that used Cloud VM instances running Tesla Cards, I saw everything from K80s to V100s folding perfectly well.

No idea on the really old cards (pre-2014)

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9 minutes ago, jctappel67 said:

Definitely not true. There were several people, including myself, that used Cloud VM instances running Tesla Cards, I saw everything from K80s to V100s folding perfectly well.

No idea on the really old cards (pre-2014)

Okay. I hadn't checked his statement against any newer cards in the architecture. Have edited post to reflect your info.

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