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Things You Liked When You Got Into PC Building but dislike now

Yogi_DaBear221

Well as the title says, what are some things you liked before you built your first pc or got really into PCs that you can't stand or definitely aren't a fan of now? Whether it be certain peripherals, case designs, etc...

 

So my big thing when my friend and I were getting started on building my PC I said I wanted even with my ugly parts 

The ThermalTake P5
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I built with this case in PC Building Simulator and I realized how much I would not have liked this case. 

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My Humble Budget Build

  • CPU
    Ryzen 5 2600
  • Motherboard
    ASUS B450M
  • RAM
    T-Force 16GB 3000mhz DDR4
  • GPU
    Powercolor Red Dragon Rx580 4GB
  • Case
    Rosewill ATX Mid-Tower
  • Storage
    1 X WD 1TB HDD
    1 X Seagate 2TB HDD
    1 Silicon Power 256gb SSD
  • PSU
    EVGA850 BQ
  • Display(s)
    HP 1920 X 1080 Monitor
    Acer SB220Q bi 21.5 inches Full HD
    Acer 1440 X 900 Monitor
  • Cooling
    Enermax Liqmax III
    1 120mm Rosewill Case fan
  • Keyboard
    Corsair K68 RGB Keyboard
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Sound
    Insignia Computer Speakers
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Ultimate
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3 minutes ago, Yogi_DaBear221 said:

Well as the title says, what are some things you liked before you built your first pc or got really into PCs that you can't stand or definitely aren't a fan of now?

Does it count if I was only ambivalent about something back then and hate it now? If so, that'd be all the god damn cables and wires -- back then, they didn't bother me that much, but nowadays I just hate all the cables and wires everywhere so, so much and I wish everything was wireless.

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Just now, WereCatf said:

Does it count if I was only ambivalent about something back then and hate it now? If so, that'd be all the god damn cables and wires -- back then, they didn't bother me that much, but nowadays I just hate all the cables and wires everywhere so, so much and I wish everything was wireless.

Absolutely, or like I didn't mind Ketchup and Mustard back in the day but I want them all black and nice looking.

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My Humble Budget Build

  • CPU
    Ryzen 5 2600
  • Motherboard
    ASUS B450M
  • RAM
    T-Force 16GB 3000mhz DDR4
  • GPU
    Powercolor Red Dragon Rx580 4GB
  • Case
    Rosewill ATX Mid-Tower
  • Storage
    1 X WD 1TB HDD
    1 X Seagate 2TB HDD
    1 Silicon Power 256gb SSD
  • PSU
    EVGA850 BQ
  • Display(s)
    HP 1920 X 1080 Monitor
    Acer SB220Q bi 21.5 inches Full HD
    Acer 1440 X 900 Monitor
  • Cooling
    Enermax Liqmax III
    1 120mm Rosewill Case fan
  • Keyboard
    Corsair K68 RGB Keyboard
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Sound
    Insignia Computer Speakers
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Ultimate
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RGB, mostly. 

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CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset 

Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads 

Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark 

RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 

PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 

Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM 

OS: Windows 11

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 2020 M1 MacBook Air (work computer) - iPhone 13 Pro Max - Apple Watch S3

 

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When I was planning my first build I for some reason was really into small cases and ITX builds, specifically the Corsair 250D i believe. I ended up with an M-ATX build. 3 years later I'm liking bigger and bigger PCs, not only for looks, but for its pure ease of building an maintenance (Define R6 is great). recently I built a few computers in small cases, oh how much I hate small cases.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 3950X Processor (Stock, -0.1V offset)  /// Motherboard: Asus Pro WS X570-Ace /// CPU Cooler: Deepcool GamerStorm Castle 360 RGB V2 /// GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER™ 8G /// RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V 128GB (4x32GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout TG /// PSU: Corsair RM850i /// Storage: 500GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe (boot) + 1TB WD Black SN750 NVMe (Working Drive) + 2x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD RAID0 (Game Library) + 2TB Seagate BarraCuda (Backup) /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

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Home Server - NASty: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 2700x Processor /// Motherboard: Asus PRIME X470-Pro  /// CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 /// GPU: Gigabyte GeForce® GT 1030 OC 2G /// RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 64GB (4x16GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R5 Window /// PSU: Corsair RM750x /// Storage: LSI SAS 9211-8i (IT Mode) + 10x 4TB Seagate Exos Enterprise Drive /// OS: UNRaid

 

Tester Rig: CPU: AMD Athlon™ 200GE Processor /// Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero WIFI  /// CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism RGB /// GPU: Palit GeForce® GTX 1050 2GB StromX /// RAM: Klevv Bolt 8GB (1x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15 /// Chassis: The AMAZING $30 "Computer Case"! /// PSU: Seasonic Focus GX-750 /// Storage: 1TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD + 240GB Transcend SSD220S 2.5" SATA SSD /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

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I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

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I liked that I thought I knew more than I did.  Then I found out I knew so little except that these are like Adult Legos with SCIENCE.  So Im glad it occurred this way.

 

Oh I also thought building a PC was buying a computer from say, Best Buy, and tossing a GPU in it.  Made it Custom boi.

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3 minutes ago, Yogi_DaBear221 said:

Absolutely, or like I didn't mind Ketchup and Mustard back in the day but I want them all black and nice looking.

For me, it's all-in-one liquid coolers. Knowing that small ones are outperformed by mid-tier air coolers, and them generally being louder due to the pump. And finally finding out about mixed metals and their inevitable failure and poor ability to be maintained makes me look at them with a certain disgust nowadays.

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3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I liked that I thought I knew more than I did.  Then I found out I knew so little except that these are like Adult Legos with SCIENCE.  So Im glad it occurred this way.

 

Oh I also thought building a PC was buying a computer from say, Best Buy, and tossing a GPU in it.  Made it Custom boi.

Yes I agree, building a PC is just like a more expensive version of Legos.

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 3950X Processor (Stock, -0.1V offset)  /// Motherboard: Asus Pro WS X570-Ace /// CPU Cooler: Deepcool GamerStorm Castle 360 RGB V2 /// GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER™ 8G /// RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V 128GB (4x32GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout TG /// PSU: Corsair RM850i /// Storage: 500GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe (boot) + 1TB WD Black SN750 NVMe (Working Drive) + 2x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD RAID0 (Game Library) + 2TB Seagate BarraCuda (Backup) /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (Main Rig): Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3 + Logitech G903 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Keychron Q1 ANSI - JWK Lavender Linear Switches (TX Switch Film, Krytox 205g0), Durock V2 Stabilisers, Polycarbonate Plate, Tape Mod, GMK Blue Samurai + Keychron K4 V2 Hotswap RGB Aluminum Frame - Gateron Milky Black (Deskeys Switch Film, Krytox 205g0), Foam Mod, Tape Mod, GMK Rainy Day PBT Clones /// Tablet: Wacom Intuos M BT /// Monitor: 4x LG 27UL500-W (4K IPS Freesync) /// DAC: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 /// Speakers: Logitech Z625 /// Mic: Focusrite CM25 MkII /// Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x, ATH-LS70iS IEMs /// Racing Wheel: Logitech G920 Driving Force with Shifter /// Eye Tracker: Steelseries Sentry  /// External Drives: 500GB Samsung T5 SSD (Working Drive)

 

Home Server - NASty: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 2700x Processor /// Motherboard: Asus PRIME X470-Pro  /// CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 /// GPU: Gigabyte GeForce® GT 1030 OC 2G /// RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 64GB (4x16GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R5 Window /// PSU: Corsair RM750x /// Storage: LSI SAS 9211-8i (IT Mode) + 10x 4TB Seagate Exos Enterprise Drive /// OS: UNRaid

 

Tester Rig: CPU: AMD Athlon™ 200GE Processor /// Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero WIFI  /// CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism RGB /// GPU: Palit GeForce® GTX 1050 2GB StromX /// RAM: Klevv Bolt 8GB (1x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15 /// Chassis: The AMAZING $30 "Computer Case"! /// PSU: Seasonic Focus GX-750 /// Storage: 1TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD + 240GB Transcend SSD220S 2.5" SATA SSD /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Laptop (Asus UX430UN): CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-8550U Processor  /// GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX150 /// RAM: 16GB 2133Mhz /// Storage: 512GB SanDisk SD8SN8U512G1002 (boot) /// OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Other Tech: Console: Xbox One S 1TB, Apple TV 4K /// Printer: Canon imageCLASS MF635Cx /// Phone: Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max 256GB Graphite (Daily Driver)  /// Tablet: Apple iPad 9.7-inch Wi-Fi (2018) 32GB + Apple Pencil (1st Generation) /// Headphones: Apple Airpods Pro, Sony WF-1000XM3, Sony WH-1000XM3 /// Smartwatch: Apple Watch Series 6 GPS Space Grey

 

Cameras: Bodies: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV,  Sony A6000 /// Lenses: Canon EF 24-70mm F/2.8L USM, Canon EF 16-35mm F/2.8L II USM, Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS II USM, Tamron SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 (Canon), Sony SEL-P1650 E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS /// Lighting: 2x Godox SL60-W Continuous LED, 2x Canon Speedlite 580EXII /// Tripods: Leofoto LS-324C Carbon Fiber Tripod + Leofoto LH-40 Ballhead, Leofoto MC-80 Multipurpose Clamp, Triopo DG-3 Gimbal Head /// Yes, I am a Canon Fanboy, deal with it

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Raidmax Sagitta case with led fans and neon light tubes.

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New build in progress: Ryen™ 8 7700x3D with a copper pipe fan | Z60e-A | Kingstron RENEGATE 16x2 Go hyenix | Phantek 2 the thar mesh in front | lead lex black label psu + AsiaHorse białe/białe | 1080 Pro 8TB 15800MB/S NvMe(for gaming this increase fps and charging time, cooled by a M.2 slot with coolblock and additional thermopad) and faster 4000GB HHD | MAI GeForce GTX 2070 Ti and RTX 6800 | Corshair psu

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On the opposite side, I used to hate water cooling and overclocking. Now here I am, with a water cooled CPU (granted, an AIO but still) and I have an overclocked FX 8320 for shits and giggles.

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Windows in side panels of PC cases. Allow me to expand, what I mean is side panels that are all window, or even worse (though thankfully you don't see this much any more) side panel-mounted fans.

Big cases. I prefer uATX or smaller these days. 

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Price. 

 

Price. 

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Back in the day I wanted the biggest mother fucking case I could get a cram as much hardware I could in. But now I rather do Mini ITX builds. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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Tbh i dislike the actual building part of pcs.

 

After so ling and so many builds i just dont find it fun.

 

I really want a lan cool 2 but im at the point where outside of cleaning my pc every couple of months im not touching it until its time for a whole new build.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Yogi_DaBear221 said:

Well as the title says, what are some things you liked before you built your first pc or got really into PCs that you can't stand or definitely aren't a fan of now? Whether it be certain peripherals, case designs, etc...

 

So my big thing when my friend and I were getting started on building my PC I said I wanted even with my ugly parts 

The ThermalTake P5
Image result for thermaltake p5

 

I built with this case in PC Building Simulator and I realized how much I would not have liked this case. 

I used to think hard drives were cool....... I have a love/hate relationship with them now

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inserting the ram. back in the pentium 4 days putting it in wasn't as hard as now a days ?

 

 

whenever i gotta insert the ram in a motherboard you gotta use so much goddamn force, you can even see the pcb bend. it didn't used to be like that.

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Flashy cases/parts, modern keyboards, gaming headsets, and this forum.

 

I would rather have a really big case with tons of expansion and airflow now than my Define C, I sold my Masterkeys Pro S and never looked back (same with my Arctis 5), and this forums has just become a cesspool of "can someone help me build a PC because I'd rather spend 10 minutes making an account and post than 30 seconds doing a fucking Google search".

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Water cooling, originally i loved it but now i'd just prefer a massive heatsink/air cooling setup.  The extra 1-2 degrees just isn't worth the headaches. 

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7 hours ago, berberries said:

Yes I agree, building a PC is just like a more expensive version of Legos.

Have you seen the price of lego? 

 

 

 

This thing is $1500 and can't even run doom.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Yogi_DaBear221 said:

Well as the title says, what are some things you liked before you built your first pc or got really into PCs that you can't stand or definitely aren't a fan of now? Whether it be certain peripherals, case designs, etc...

 

 

 

I've always hated cooling fans. Back on the Socket7 boards, fans all sucked, they would wear out after a year or two and then rattle, and people just... ignored it.

 

Here we are like 24 years later and people still treat strange noises from their PC like it's supposed to sound like that. High pitch noises? clicking noises? electrical coil whine? all normal? come on.

 

It's really strange when you boot up an ultrabook, that has only one cooling fan and it makes noises like it has a mechanical drive... all coil whine.

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11 hours ago, nonsense42 said:

inserting the ram. back in the pentium 4 days putting it in wasn't as hard as now a days ?

You don't even have to click down both sides now, and you need to apply force, but not that much!? ?

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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Cable management, used to spend hours individually labeling cables, zip tying fan cables together, it was like therapy lmao, light some incense and get to cable management.

 

I just finished a build today, plugged everything in, made sure it looked decent in the front, powered on and booted windows, closed the back and side panels and called it a day.

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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