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PerryT78
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I have been looking to purchase an AMD RX-580 8GB and have noticed differences in the types of cards available.

For example the MSI Armour Radeon RX-580 has an 8-pin connector and is slightly more expensive, but the ASRock Radeon RX-580 8GB only has a 6-Pin connected but is slightly cheaper.

 

Is there any performance difference between the two cards? I am looking to play some VR in the future, will the ASRock card be able to run VR? (I am looking at the ASRock because I don't want to spend any unnecessary extra cash.).

 

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Well the msi armor does not have that good cooling, but it will work. The 8 pin mean that it can draw more power (and more heat) from your psu. Now that does not mean that the msi is any better than the Asrock one.

The Asroch one has better boost clock when you apply your oc mode or overclock it by yourself. So with a quick research i found out that to asrock one has better cooling, so the Asrock one will be better.

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(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Don't get a RX 580 with only one 6-pin. With a 6-pin that card can only draw up to 150W of power which isn't optimal for a card that officially draws 185W and can draw more than 200W. So either the card will be power starved, or it will draw more wattage through the 6-pin and PCIe slot than is recommended. 

With an 8-pin a rx 580 would be provided with 225W which is plenty for that card.

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15 minutes ago, Medicate said:

Don't get a RX 580 with only one 6-pin. With a 6-pin that card can only draw up to 150W of power which isn't optimal for a card that officially draws 185W and can draw more than 200W. So either the card will be power starved, or it will draw more wattage through the 6-pin and PCIe slot than is recommended. 

With an 8-pin a rx 580 would be provided with 225W which is plenty for that card.

You are right, but msi armor does not have a good cooling. For more power comes more heat. If you really want a good rx 580 8gb power color red dragon oc or asus dual will be good options.  Yes it can only draw around 150w but ti will be much cooler, and you could overclock it if you have enough luck.

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Test Rig.

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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RX 580 with only a 6pin? Check whether it's the 2048SP model or not, which is just a renamed RX 570.

 

but you really should spend extra for more cooling, neither card do well with thermals.

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14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

RX 580 with only a 6pin? Check whether it's the 2048SP model or not, which is just a renamed RX 570.

 

but you really should spend extra for more cooling, neither card do well with thermals.

Here is the link to the card. 

https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/AMD/Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX580 8G OC/

I'm not very experienced with PC's so I'm not sure whether it is the 2048SP model.

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55 minutes ago, Medicate said:

Don't get a RX 580 with only one 6-pin. With a 6-pin that card can only draw up to 150W of power which isn't optimal for a card that officially draws 185W and can draw more than 200W. So either the card will be power starved, or it will draw more wattage through the 6-pin and PCIe slot than is recommended. 

With an 8-pin a rx 580 would be provided with 225W which is plenty for that card.

The two extra pins are ground, which improve voltage regulation They don't carry any current. 6-pin and 8-pin can handle the exact same amount of power. If you don't believe me, watch Buildzoid's videos.

 

The PCIe interface can handle 75w. Plus a 6-pin connector. That is plenty for RX580.

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3 minutes ago, Deli said:

The two extra pins are ground, which improve voltage regulation They don't carry any current. 6-pin and 8-pin can handle the exact same amount of power. If you don't believe me, watch Buildzoid's videos.

 

The PCIe interface can handle 75w. Plus a 6-pin connector. That is plenty for RX580.

So would I be fine going for the cheaper 6-Pin ASRock card, even for VR?

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1 minute ago, PerryT78 said:

So would I be fine going for the cheaper 6-Pin ASRock card, even for VR?

Don't use the connector to judge how good the card is. Look for VRM design and the how good cooler of the card.

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