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6 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:

It looks like you should go with the 5700xt. As I said before, they will bundle together much better than anything from NVIDIA.The motherboard for Radeon and AMD systems is more affordable anyway.

They perform almost the same, 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

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6 minutes ago, Jeve Stobs said:

What are the specs of your setup? AMD and NVIDIA don't play well so if you have a Ryzen processor I would go with the 5700xt. If not, the GTX 1080 is always a great option. Check out this link to see a benchmark comparison between the two: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3603vs4045

So I'm half way through my build,

But the setup is going to be this, prices are AUD

 

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7 minutes ago, Constantin said:

They perform almost the same, 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

Yeah, a 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

relative-performance_1920-1080.png

 

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13 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:

Wondering if I'd be better off with a new 5700xt or a used gtx 1080

Price should be significantly different between those 2, how much?

What is your PC spec? PSU model, etc. 

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3 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Yeah, a 1080 is a tiny bit faster.

relative-performance_1920-1080.png

 

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Price should be significantly different between those 2, how much?

What is your PC spec? PSU model, etc. 

This is build I'm going for, but wondering if I'd be better off with a 1080

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@xAcid9this chart is garbage 2070 is ass lot faster than the 5700xt .....

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Just now, Constantin said:

@xAcid9this chart is garbage 2070 is ass lot faster than the 5700xt .....

Show me other reliable review that 2070 is "ass alot faster" than the 5700xt. Not on 1 or 2 game. 

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6 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:

It looks like you should go with the 5700xt. As I said before, they will bundle together much better than anything from NVIDIA.The motherboard for Radeon and AMD systems is more affordable anyway.

 

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2 minutes ago, LeBigRouge said:
This is build I'm going for, but wondering if I'd be better off with a 1080

Either card is fine for that build, i assumed a new 5700XT is better than 1080 overall but if price different is huge enough and 2nd hand 1080 could be more appealing.

 

Also which 5700XT and 1080? What games are you going to play?

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5700XT all the way!

PC 1:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X    GPU: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 1080

RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz DDR4    SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB

PSU: Corsair CX750M V2   HDD: Seagate Barracuda Compute 3TB 7200RPM

Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400STG Red/Black   MOBO: ASRock X370 Killer SLI/ac

OS: Windows 10 Pro  Keyboard:  Corsair K68 Red  Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB 

 

PC 2:

CPU: Intel Pentium E5800   GPU: AMD HD6450 512MB

RAM: 1x2GB Kingston 1066MHz DDR3    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM

PSU: Sparkle-Power 300W     Case: Nobilis Micro ATX OEM  MOBO: Intel DG41WV 775   

OS: Windows 10 Home  Keyboard:  Apple A1048  Mouse:  Rosewill Fusion C40

 

PC 3:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500   GPU: AMD HD8490 1GB

RAM: 2x2GB Apacer 1333MHz DDR3    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM

PSU: Generic HP 300W     Case: Nobilis Micro ATX OEM  MOBO: Intel DG31PR 775   

OS: Ubuntu LTS 18.04  Keyboard:  Microsoft RT2300  Mouse:  Rosewill Fusion C40

 

PC 4:

CPU: Intel 486DX2 50 MHz   GPU: Western Digital 90C24

RAM: 4MB Generic    HDD: 340MB Generic

PSU: IBM Charger     Case: ThinkPad 755C  MOBO: IBM Proprietary 

OS: Windows 3.1  Keyboard: Built In Keyboard  Mouse: Built In Nipple

 

Consoles: Wii, SNES, NES, N64, Atari 7800, Commodore VIC-20, Genesis, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, and Steam Link.

 

Car: 2002 Subaru Outback Limited (Red)

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5 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Show me other reliable review that 2070 is "ass alot faster" than the 5700xt. Not on 1 or 2 game. 

Not worth arguing with him tbh, not the first time he's done this...

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21 minutes ago, Jeve Stobs said:

AMD and NVIDIA don't play well so if you have a Ryzen processor I would go with the 5700xt.

That's not true right? Do you have anything to back this up?

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1 minute ago, xAcid9 said:

That's not true right? Do you have anything to back this up?

I have completely mixed hardware in all of my systems and have run into no issues.

PC 1:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X    GPU: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 1080

RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz DDR4    SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB

PSU: Corsair CX750M V2   HDD: Seagate Barracuda Compute 3TB 7200RPM

Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400STG Red/Black   MOBO: ASRock X370 Killer SLI/ac

OS: Windows 10 Pro  Keyboard:  Corsair K68 Red  Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB 

 

PC 2:

CPU: Intel Pentium E5800   GPU: AMD HD6450 512MB

RAM: 1x2GB Kingston 1066MHz DDR3    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM

PSU: Sparkle-Power 300W     Case: Nobilis Micro ATX OEM  MOBO: Intel DG41WV 775   

OS: Windows 10 Home  Keyboard:  Apple A1048  Mouse:  Rosewill Fusion C40

 

PC 3:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500   GPU: AMD HD8490 1GB

RAM: 2x2GB Apacer 1333MHz DDR3    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM

PSU: Generic HP 300W     Case: Nobilis Micro ATX OEM  MOBO: Intel DG31PR 775   

OS: Ubuntu LTS 18.04  Keyboard:  Microsoft RT2300  Mouse:  Rosewill Fusion C40

 

PC 4:

CPU: Intel 486DX2 50 MHz   GPU: Western Digital 90C24

RAM: 4MB Generic    HDD: 340MB Generic

PSU: IBM Charger     Case: ThinkPad 755C  MOBO: IBM Proprietary 

OS: Windows 3.1  Keyboard: Built In Keyboard  Mouse: Built In Nipple

 

Consoles: Wii, SNES, NES, N64, Atari 7800, Commodore VIC-20, Genesis, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, and Steam Link.

 

Car: 2002 Subaru Outback Limited (Red)

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1 minute ago, Fin the Human said:

I run completely mixed hardware on all of my systems and have run into no issues.

Yeah that's what i thought, in fact AMD FX processor actually perform better on Nvidia GPUs compare to AMD GPUs because of it better threaded driver. 

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I still stand by my recommendation on the 5700xt. The performance is a bit better and it handles multi threaded tasks like a boss.

 

Jeve Stobs

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Just now, Jeve Stobs said:

I still stand by my recommendation on the 5700xt. The performance is a bit better and it handles multi threaded tasks like a boss.

While it is the better card, your assertion that AMD and Nvidia perform worse together was false.

PC 1:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X    GPU: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 1080

RAM: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz DDR4    SSD: Crucial MX500 500GB

PSU: Corsair CX750M V2   HDD: Seagate Barracuda Compute 3TB 7200RPM

Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400STG Red/Black   MOBO: ASRock X370 Killer SLI/ac

OS: Windows 10 Pro  Keyboard:  Corsair K68 Red  Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro RGB 

 

PC 2:

CPU: Intel Pentium E5800   GPU: AMD HD6450 512MB

RAM: 1x2GB Kingston 1066MHz DDR3    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM

PSU: Sparkle-Power 300W     Case: Nobilis Micro ATX OEM  MOBO: Intel DG41WV 775   

OS: Windows 10 Home  Keyboard:  Apple A1048  Mouse:  Rosewill Fusion C40

 

PC 3:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500   GPU: AMD HD8490 1GB

RAM: 2x2GB Apacer 1333MHz DDR3    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200RPM

PSU: Generic HP 300W     Case: Nobilis Micro ATX OEM  MOBO: Intel DG31PR 775   

OS: Ubuntu LTS 18.04  Keyboard:  Microsoft RT2300  Mouse:  Rosewill Fusion C40

 

PC 4:

CPU: Intel 486DX2 50 MHz   GPU: Western Digital 90C24

RAM: 4MB Generic    HDD: 340MB Generic

PSU: IBM Charger     Case: ThinkPad 755C  MOBO: IBM Proprietary 

OS: Windows 3.1  Keyboard: Built In Keyboard  Mouse: Built In Nipple

 

Consoles: Wii, SNES, NES, N64, Atari 7800, Commodore VIC-20, Genesis, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, and Steam Link.

 

Car: 2002 Subaru Outback Limited (Red)

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4 minutes ago, Jeve Stobs said:

Old news, Nvidia already canceled the program. If you don't want to buy Nvidia because of their shitty business practice, that's fine to me but don't misinformed other people just because you don't like the company. 

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I still recommended the correct card based on pure specifications, not reputation.

 

Jeve Stobs

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5 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Old news, Nvidia already canceled the program. If you don't want to buy Nvidia because of their shitty business practice, that's fine to me but don't misinformed other people just because you don't like the company. 

The beginning of the article was about NVIDIA cancelling the program which triggered AMD's response. 

 

Jeve Stobs

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2 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

Either card is fine for that build, i assumed a new 5700XT is better than 1080 overall but if price different is huge enough and 2nd hand 1080 could be more appealing.

 

Also which 5700XT and 1080? What games are you going to play?

Msi gaming x for the 5700xt, and the 1080 would depend on what I could find,

Mainly play single player story driven games, also play games like borderlands, eve online, occasionally call of duty

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