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add 2nd nvme ssd and convert existing setup to raid 0?

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I googled a bit but didn't find anything about nvme ssds - I know with Intel IRST you can take an existing single disk and convert it to a RAID array by adding 1+ additional identical drives but the Intel article explaining it seems to be talking about IRST controlling SATA ports. 

 

Can this same thing be done with NVME m.2 ssds? 

 

Just wondering as I have enough free PCI-E lanes to add another drive and could benefit either from RAID 0 or RAID 1 if I can track down an unused 2tb 960 Pro somewhere for not an outrageous price.

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you haven't mentioned what the system that the SSD's will be going into but most of the GPU will run at 8x allowing an extra 8 lanes that can be used for high speed storage and similar devices.

 

AFAIK you should be able to raid nvme drives but as long as it is a decent drive, the speed difference will be negligible and not really worth the effort for a consumer.

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1 minute ago, ImNotThere said:

you haven't mentioned what the system that the SSD's will be going into but most of the GPU will run at 8x allowing an extra 8 lanes that can be used for high speed storage and similar devices.

 

AFAIK you should be able to raid nvme drives but as long as it is a decent drive, the speed difference will be negligible and not really worth the effort for a consumer.

This.

 

Plus RAID 0 is quite fragile - you lose one drive, you lose all the data.

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I have been running a raid 0 on my sata ssd's for a while now, and honestly it wasn't worth it. It was fun to play around with raid, but it really was not that much faster, game load times were almost identical. And the big kicker is you get bottlenecked by your other drives, like if you wanted to transfer data at high speeds you'll need something as fast as your array to benefit from that. NVMe drives are already so fast that a raid 0 is not worth the risk of data loss, plus if you end up using Intel's Rapid storage technology for creating the raid you will add a godd 10-15 seconds to your boot

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Same Question:

 

History:

Running two Crucial M4 Sata SSD's is RAID 0 for 5 years, without any issues, including case changes and power outages.

All files on a secondary WSS and backed up to NAS with an additional cloud backup.

C: hosts OS and Applications (and a couple of games).

 

Scenario:

Purchased Samsung 970 EVO Plus at Christmas and its popped, today PC didn't boot. Windows installer can't create or boot to any of the partitions.

Amazon cant replace it, only refund it.

 

Question:

Give another Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500gb a go @ £100

Buy 2x Crucial CT500P1SSD8 P1 500 GB and RAID0 them @ £120

 

Not opting for resiliency here, just fast AF performance.

 

Any ideas which solution is best?

 

(I also like crucial, most Samsung products Ive owned go poof before there time)

 

 

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1 hour ago, ImNotThere said:

you haven't mentioned what the system that the SSD's will be going into but most of the GPU will run at 8x allowing an extra 8 lanes that can be used for high speed storage and similar devices.

 

AFAIK you should be able to raid nvme drives but as long as it is a decent drive, the speed difference will be negligible and not really worth the effort for a consumer.

My x299 rig, so 44 / 48 pci-e lanes direct to cpu. 

 

Yes I know you can raid nvme, I'm asking if you can take a single existing drive and add a second drive to create a raid without losing the data on the original nvme ssd. 

 

As mentioned, Intel IRST allows you to convert like this with sata drives but I can't find any confirmation of such functionality with nvme drives on any motherboard. 

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2 hours ago, jj9987 said:

This.

 

Plus RAID 0 is quite fragile - you lose one drive, you lose all the data.

That sounds the same as a single drive. I'm wanting to do this to max out read speed, not to create data redundancy. 

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Your best bet to get this working is to create a clone of your current setup, then once that is set, create your RAID, clone everything back. Then expand the file system and all set. 

Personally, I use Mini Partition Wizard. Works like a charm. 

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