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Help needed to buy a B450 Motherboard for Ryzen 5 3600

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A friend of mine is going to build a PC and is budget constrained.
He's gonna buy a Ryzen 5 3600 and is looking to pair it up with a B450 Mobo.
He has 2 mobos in mind.
01. ASUS ROG Strix B450-F 
02. MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX

Which would be better ? or any other suggestions withing the B450 line up? 
 

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the Tomahawk is electrically better. Still, better check if it offers stuff he needs say, front panel USB headers

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Go for the Tomahawk MAX or Gaming Plus (Max).

Better quality than the Asus board.

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Tomahawk MAX

  Spec: Macbook Air 2017    

ProcessorPU: ii5 (I5-5350U |    

| RAM: 8GB LPDDR3 |

| Storage: 128GB SSD | 

 | GPU: Intel HD 6000 |

| Audio: JBL 450BT Wireless Headset |

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personally i wouldnt recommend msi because of their bios releases. their older b450 boards have bios problems to this day

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15 minutes ago, Neftex said:

personally i wouldnt recommend msi because of their bios releases. their older b450 boards have bios problems to this day

All MAX Motherboard versions come with an updated BIOS that supports Ryzen 3000, if thats what you mean

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3 minutes ago, tomcar said:

All MAX Motherboard versions come with an updated BIOS that supports Ryzen 3000, if thats what you mean

no thats not what i mean. msi bios releases were slower than others when Ryzen 3000 came and were buggy af (some still not fixed). im pretty sure the same will be true for Ryzen 4000 and personally i wouldnt go for their motherboards knowing this.

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8 hours ago, Neftex said:

no thats not what i mean. msi bios releases were slower than others when Ryzen 3000 came and were buggy af (some still not fixed). im pretty sure the same will be true for Ryzen 4000 and personally i wouldnt go for their motherboards knowing this.

How much of a deal breaker will this be? I mean enough to switch to the Asus one ? or any other better option? 

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2 hours ago, prometheus666 said:

How much of a deal breaker will this be? I mean enough to switch to the Asus one ? or any other better option? 

No longer relevant issue, esp for MAX boards.

MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX, Tomahawk MAX, Mortar MAX are among your best choices.

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My MSI b450-A Pro has been fine. The BIOS updates are overstated. I have been stable since before the Abba bios release. The non Max boards lack OC profiles and a flashy UI, but work great otherwise.

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