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The end of public anonymity

39 minutes ago, DKL said:

Even if you do that, there's cameras where you bought that hat/clothing/makeup etc.
They can track the clothing combination. Because AI.

Nah there are ways around that. 

 

But there is "trying not to be tracked" and then there is "trying to operate anonymously while you crime"

 

You don't want to be tracked if you explicitly want to shop for things that are embarrassing, like sex toys. Versus, trying to purchase anonymously weapons and drugs that would land you in jail.

 

If you're just trying not to be tracked, stores will accept straight cash, even if you go into the store dressed like a clown. I doubt the same will happen inside a store selling weapons.

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I am so fucking glad that the only picture of me on the internet is on my private Instagram account.

 

Also, not to get political, but

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In addition to Mr. Ton-That, Clearview was founded by Richard Schwartz — who was an aide to Rudolph W. Giuliani when he was mayor of New York — and backed financially by Peter Thiel, a venture capitalist behind Facebook and Palantir.

Very interesting.

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I think you could look at this one of two ways. 

 

1) Complete violation of privacy, someone you have never heard of accessing photos, videos, online information everywhere. 

 

2) Complete privacy online - you know exactly where all your online information and content is - you know where to delete it. 

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What allows them to scrape that data in the first place? Photos you upload to social media are for use on that social media, not by 3rd parties.

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5 hours ago, Blade404 said:

The potential for mis-use here is too huge for me to even begin to contemplate.. its the stuff that should be left as a Hollywood movie plot, not in the hands of a Startup..

looks like DeepNude all over again...

well at least i have confidence that 4chan will use this for justice and not for searching up who a person is on /s

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sauce fellow anon?...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

I think you could look at this one of two ways. 

 

1) Complete violation of privacy, someone you have never heard of accessing photos, videos, online information everywhere. 

 

2) Complete privacy online - you know exactly where all your online information and content is - you know where to delete it. 

Only... this information is only accessible via law enforcement and has already started being utilized by six hundred different groups... (police/fbi/etc.)

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2 hours ago, elfensky said:

What allows them to scrape that data in the first place? Photos you upload to social media are for use on that social media, not by 3rd parties.

The social media sell the photos to other companies to use for whatever. Typically you give the social media ownership of anything you upload, though this may not actually be legal in many countries.

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The trick is to copyright your face and sue any company that does facial recognition when done on you. Since governments care more about copyright infringement then privacy or any other crime.

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2 hours ago, That Franc said:

I've been avoiding being taken pictures of for nearly three decades, and now I know why.

Surely there are photos taken of you by others, either with or without your consent.

 

I also think we are being too paranoid about the tech. Yes it can be used for evil, but it can be used for good, and it's exactly the same merit as free speech or right to bear arms. There will not be a yes/no agreement, only certain degrees of acceptable use.

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8 hours ago, Arika S said:

bold of them to assume there are pictures of me on the internet

Maybe you didn't upload one, but people are dumb and upload photos of you without your approval. That's the main problem. Coz people don't think that far that just maybe, some of us don't want our photos online.

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11 hours ago, Arika S said:

bold of them to assume there are pictures of me on the internet

There certainly are.

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11 hours ago, Arika S said:

bold of them to assume there are pictures of me on the internet

What about those made by others ? ?

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I don't understand the issue here. All it does is it use AI to link picture together (aka xref table). For ages the same thing has been done with social media post, comments, web search. You can create the same links with the text only. What does doing it with an image now make it so different. You can already script something using the name to a person and go through his contact, find comments, post mentioning the name and related acronym. For god sakes i used to have developed such a tools where i worked a couple years back to do company background checks faster i was even finding the person xfire (yeah it was a long time ago) and steam account just from their name or myspace account.

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The comment about the government not having anything like that is a lie and they have had this for years. Also it's not finding private pictures so you can technically do this by hand without AI. It's not illegal and if you are concerned than maybe think twice about posting things publicly  

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Urm didn't this already exist, I'm sure I've read this before. 

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15 hours ago, Blade404 said:

This has to be one of the scariest technology reads in a while.. ?

 

The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It - nytimes

 

 

The potential for mis-use here is too huge for me to even begin to contemplate.. its the stuff that should be left as a Hollywood movie plot, not in the hands of a Startup..

I think they give too little credit to the US government. They must be talking about the FBIs database. I’d imagine that the NSA has piles of data above all else. 

Was there dairy in that? ***30 min later**** Yep..... You might want to let it air out for a bit.....😂😂😂😂😂😂

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19 hours ago, Blade404 said:

This has to be one of the scariest technology reads in a while.. ?

 

The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It - nytimes

 

 

The potential for mis-use here is too huge for me to even begin to contemplate.. its the stuff that should be left as a Hollywood movie plot, not in the hands of a Startup..

Apparently, when the news reporter went to a study center (University?) testing this stuff, they asked "hey, can you check my photo/face against the database?", a few minutes later, the company that made Clearview, phoned the study center and asked "are you speaking to the media?!"

 

So, this software appears to phone home, give lots of details(!!!), and knows the difference between police using it, and other corporations/educational services (or on a user by user basis)!

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16 hours ago, mr moose said:

where did people think all this technology was going?  Seriously if you thought this would never happen or will never happen then you are not looking very hard at humanity.

 

 

Technology will either bury us or or make our society a utopian shangri-la.  Either way we will lose all subterfuge on the way. 

Says the person saying George Orwell was over exaggerating last week. ?‍♂️;)

 

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16 hours ago, Shreyas1 said:

Oof looks like everyone who cares about privacy is going to have to wear a mask in public from now on

Don't, it'll make you look suspicious

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7 hours ago, BuckGup said:

There certainly are.

 

7 hours ago, Tony Tony Chopper said:

What about those made by others ? ?

Unless I have a stalker, if any still exist, they will be over 7 years old, I've changed a lot in 7 years 

Judge the product by its own merits, not by the Company that created it.

 

Don't dilute <good thing> by always trying to focus on, and drag conversation back to, <bad thing>.

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16 hours ago, DKL said:

Even if you do that, there's cameras where you bought that hat/clothing/makeup etc.
They can track the clothing combination. Because AI.

Not if you order that stuff online instead of buying in person 

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2 hours ago, TechyBen said:

Says the person saying George Orwell was over exaggerating last week. ?‍♂️;)

 

I said George Orwell was a fictional book written to a common and popular theme at the start of the cold war.   I even linked to actual real world evidence to support all my postulations and articulated what I meant.   People need to learn how to think beyond the superficial in these topics.   It would go a long way if people could learn to dig deeper than to just to the level that satisfies their preconceptions.

QuicK and DirtY. Read the CoC it's like a guide on how not to be moron.  Also I don't have an issue with the VS series.

Sometimes I miss contractions like n't on the end of words like wouldn't, couldn't and shouldn't.    Please don't be a dick,  make allowances when reading my posts.

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13 hours ago, Arika S said:

 

Unless I have a stalker, if any still exist, they will be over 7 years old, I've changed a lot in 7 years 

I assume you also have friends that have taken pictures before and quite possibly shared those on Facebook.

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15 hours ago, mr moose said:

I said George Orwell was a fictional book written to a common and popular theme at the start of the cold war.   I even linked to actual real world evidence to support all my postulations and articulated what I meant.   People need to learn how to think beyond the superficial in these topics.   It would go a long way if people could learn to dig deeper than to just to the level that satisfies their preconceptions.

Where was I preconceptionising? So, now you are saying that tracking is going to happen, even though all the real world evidence you had showed it's not happening?

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