FCBGA vs BGA

[NoobBoi]

FCBGA vs BGA. Pros and Cons, etc.

[Lurick]

FCBGA and BGA are the same thing so....

[NoobBoi]

Just now, Lurick said:

FCBGA and BGA are the same thing so....

No they aren't

 

[WereCatf]

8 minutes ago, NoobBoi said:

FCBGA vs BGA. Pros and Cons, etc.

Nope. BGA is the general idea of using solder balls underneath the chip to connect it to a PCB, fcBGA is a specific package-design of BGA. Two different things.

[Lurick]

12 minutes ago, NoobBoi said:

No they aren't

 

Well since you gave SO much context into the original post I must have gotten lost in all the detail there trying to figure out what you're trying to ask..... Also, if you look at BGA1 and BGA2 they are also referred to as FCBGA but without knowing anything about what you're wanting to really get at it's pretty hard to answer correctly and if we assume you're asking about BGA1 and BGA2 then my original point stands.

[NoobBoi]

3 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Well since you gave SO much context into the original post I must have gotten lost in all the detail there trying to figure out what you're trying to ask..... Also, if you look at BGA1 and BGA2 they are also referred to as FCBGA but without knowing anything about what you're wanting to really get at it's pretty hard to answer correctly and if we assume you're asking about BGA1 and BGA2 then my original point stands.

Oh ok.

 

[Lurick]

1 minute ago, NoobBoi said:

Oh ok.

 

Looking at my post now I probably come across like a complete ass so I do owe you an apology for that. But please give details on what you're trying to figure out and we can help you out in much more detail

[NoobBoi]

Just now, Lurick said:

Looking at my post now I probably come across like a complete ass so I do owe you an apology for that. But please give details on what you're trying to figure out and we can help you out

That okay. And thanks for the info! 

[SenKa]

I am not very well versed in this sort of stuff, but I do know enough to have an opinion.

 

BGA Pros-

Package is overall denser

Performance is likely to be higher

 

BGA Cons-

Harder to work around and repair as they do not like to be reheated using the traditional top-down method due to the high likelyhood of layers flexing. (Louis rossman has a fantastic rant about this in relation to the 2010-2012 A1278 Macbook Pro's GPU failure issues.)

 

Due to the ball-grid soldering as apposed to pins, the chips are often weaker and less resistant to mechanical stress

 

BGA is a very large standard, but these points are valid for most if not all of them.

[WereCatf]

11 minutes ago, SenKa said:

Flip Chip Pros-

Package is overall denser

Performance is likely to be higher

 

Flip Chip Cons-

Harder to work around and repair as they do not like to be reheated using the traditional top-down method due to the high likelyhood of layers flexing. (Louis rossman has a fantastic rant about this in relation to the 2010-2012 A1278 Macbook Pro's GPU failure issues.)

Without stating what you're comparing to, the comparison doesn't make any sense. Besides that, do you literally mean fcBGA in your comparison, or just BGA in general?

[SenKa]

3 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Without stating what you're comparing to, the comparison doesn't make any sense.

Ah. I guess I did miss stating it directly. Though, "Due to the ball-grid soldering as apposed to pins, the chips are often weaker and less resistant to mechanical stress" probably should have given it away that i was comparing BGA to PGA.

 

4 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

Besides that, do you literally mean fcBGA in your comparison, or just BGA in general?

BGA in general. That was a typo as I was reading "FCBGA" as I was writing BGA.

[WereCatf]

6 minutes ago, SenKa said:

Though, "Due to the ball-grid soldering as apposed to pins, the chips are often weaker and less resistant to mechanical stress" probably should have given it away that i was comparing BGA to PGA

Yes, I knew what you meant, I just wanted you to clarify the wording as your comparison could've been interpreted as a direct reply to OP's question by someone less attentive and thus get confused. As you did clarify the wording, I don't have anything further to say